What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?

[The General]

You don’t get it, do you?

I’ve already said I don’t believe Jeremy moved the bedroom telephone until after he’d killed them all. There was no point as he disabled the phone line by taking the kitchen phone’s receiver off the hook. We all know he sneaked in through the bathroom window — and crept into the kitchen and the cupboard where he’d put the gun back.

You’d think either June or Nevill would’ve noticed the bedroom phone missing, which is another reason Jeremy wouldn’t have moved it prior to leaving WHF earlier: there was a chance Nevill would have noticed it missing and gone and brought the kitchen phone up.

No-ne knows for sure if June tried to get to the bedroom phone; I somehow doubt it. Why stand still making a call when someone’s shooting at you? I suspect she was running for the door that led to the next room, then ran in the opposite direction when Jeremy beat her to it. The way June is laying by the door looks to me like she was shot by Jeremy as he stood inside the bedroom.

He was panicking too as he had only injured Nevill, who was trying to make it downstairs and he couldn’t let him near the phone.

You see, you start the post with a little jab - a rangefinder - a reminder, but then go on to post rationally.
Thank you.

[APRIL]

I looked at the bedroom photos. Neither of the bedside tables in the main bedroom had a gap where a phone could have been placed.

That's a particularly inane comment. Unless one has OCD -and by the look of the place generally, such wasn't the case- phones can stand on top of books, boxes of tissues, or anything else considered important enough to have a place on one's bedside table................and the Bambers had the choice of two shelves!!!

[Robittybob1]

There wasn’t

Fact

How can we be certain of that?  If Jeremy was capable of entering and leaving, why not someone else?

[Holly Goodhead]

The cream rotary dial phone was usually kept in NB/June's bedroom.

On 5th Aug a Mr Pike called at WHF to collect the cordless phone for repair.  Whilst there he observed the above phone in the kitchen:

[ISpyWithMyEye]

The cream rotary dial phone was usually kept in NB/June's bedroom.

On 5th Aug a Mr Pike called at WHF to collect the cordless phone for repair.  Whilst there he observed the above phone in the kitchen:

And here IS the cream coloured GPO telephone they kept in the kitchen

Why do you add/twist/embellish/ignore things?

The engineer never said the kitchen phone was a ROTARY one, which he definitely would have done as he’s so, so thorough

The engineer said there was a “cream coloured type phone issued by the GPO”

Where does he say it was a rotary dial type?

Why are you misleading people, Holly? Or did you make an error?

Which was it?

Because from where I’m sitting, that looks rather sly to me....





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[Robittybob1]

End of story IMO.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

End of story IMO.

End??

I’d say more like the start...

All these cites Holly loves posting, which many don’t usually CHECK, could all be wrong!

She got this one wrong,

She categorically said the phone in question was the ROTARY one the engineer was referring to

But he never said that. He never said it was a rotary style, when he definitely would have being so specific

He said “a cream coloured one issued by the GPO”

He was EXTREMELY specific.

So why did Holly make out that was the bedroom phone (the ivory rotary one) when it wasn’t?

[Holly Goodhead]

And here IS the cream coloured GPO telephone they kept in the kitchen

Why do you add/twist/embellish/ignore things?

The engineer never said the kitchen phone was a ROTARY one, which he definitely would have done as he’s so, so thorough

The engineer said there was a “cream coloured type phone issued by the GPO”

Where does he say it was a rotary dial type?

Why are you misleading people, Holly? Or did you make an error?

Which was it?

Because from where I’m sitting, that looks rather sly to me....

I haven't previously seen that image?

The phone usually kept in the kitchen was described as fawn by housekeeper Jean Boutell.

[APRIL]

I haven't previously seen that image?

The phone usually kept in the kitchen was described as fawn by housekeeper Jean Boutell.

I seem to recall a very lengthy -tedious?- debate on blue, re the colour of the phone. Names like beige, biscuit, and fawn being bandied about. It definitely wasn't cream -both mine, at the time, were cream. A replacement cream was sent which turned out to be fawn. There was a distinct difference.

[Holly Goodhead]

I seem to recall a very lengthy -tedious?- debate on blue, re the colour of the phone. Names like beige, biscuit, and fawn being bandied about. It definitely wasn't cream -both mine, at the time, were cream. A replacement cream was sent which turned out to be fawn. There was a distinct difference.

Jean Boutell differentiates.  She refers to the phone usually kept in the Bamber's bedroom as cream and the phone usually kept in the kitchen as fawn.

Mr Pike refers to the phone he observed in the kitchen on 5th Aug as cream.

[Holly Goodhead]

I'm just thinking back to my time at my parents in 1985 and before with phones.  It was a world away from today as the GPO had a monopoly and not only was the line rented but the phone too.

I might be wrong on this but I think I recall when the market opened up and customers were able to purchase their own phones I think there was some issue with adapters/plugging them in? 

Mr Pike collected the cordless phone and the two way adapter.  Did this mean the fawn phone couldn't be plugged in to the kitchen/drink cupboard socket hence the cream colored GPO issued phone was brought down from the bedroom to use in the kitchen? 

[Holly Goodhead]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_telephone_socket

[Holly Goodhead]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_telephone_socket

So it seems to me a possible explanation for the cream phone brought down to the kitchen from upstairs is that without the 2 way adapter handed over to Mr Pike, the fawn coloured phone was incompatible with the GPO socket.

[G-Unit]

I'm just thinking back to my time at my parents in 1985 and before with phones.  It was a world away from today as the GPO had a monopoly and not only was the line rented but the phone too.

I might be wrong on this but I think I recall when the market opened up and customers were able to purchase their own phones I think there was some issue with adapters/plugging them in? 

Mr Pike collected the cordless phone and the two way adapter.  Did this mean the fawn phone couldn't be plugged in to the kitchen/drink cupboard socket hence the cream colored GPO issued phone was brought down from the bedroom to use in the kitchen?

Mr Pike wasn't a BT engineer, he ran a stationery business. Nevill bought the Envoy Cordless Phone from him in Spetember 1984, along with the two way adaptor, so the two seem to be connected. Assuming the cordless phone was bought to sit in the kitchen this makes sense, as there was already a Statesman phone plugged in there.

[Holly Goodhead]

Mr Pike wasn't a BT engineer, he ran a stationery business. Nevill bought the Envoy Cordless Phone from him in Spetember 1984, along with the two way adaptor, so the two seem to be connected. Assuming the cordless phone was bought to sit in the kitchen this makes sense, as there was already a Statesman phone plugged in there.

No Mr Pike wasn't a tel eng but he did collect the phone for repair.  He refers to NB removing the two way adapter from a BT phone socket.  Was the fawn phone compatabile with this socket?  If not did they have another adapter?