What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?

[Holly Goodhead]

The Statesman was a BT (British Telecom) phone.  Look at the embossed logo...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BT-British-Telecom-Vintage-Retro-Push-Button-Telephone-Statesman-9005R-c-1980s-/303530781995?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

Than you Myster.

Mr Pike referred to a cream coloured GPO issued phone and was clearing referring to the 706 model. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPO_telephones

[Myster]

Than you Myster.

Mr Pike referred to a cream coloured GPO issued phone and was clearing referring to the 706 model. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPO_telephones

On Wiki, both Statesman and Type 746 are referred to as GPO phones, because that was the generic name they were called in the 1980s, I suppose.  But I think that Pike was referring to the Statesman rather than the type 746, because it was the usual kitchen phone in position on the worktop when he visited the farm on the 5th, before it later disappeared under a pile of magazines/newspapers on the 7th.

[Holly Goodhead]

On Wiki, both Statesman and Type 746 are referred to as GPO phones, because that was the generic name they were called in the 1980s, I suppose.  But I think that Pike was referring to the Statesman rather than the type 746, because it was the usual kitchen phone in position on the worktop when he visited the farm on the 5th, before it later disappeared under a pile of magazines/newspapers on the 7th.

I don't simply because the rotary dialled cream phone was first launced in 1959 and was synonomous with the GPO.  It could be found in every home up and down the land because it was pretty much the only model available.

GPO was split in 1980 with the telecoms side becoming BT in 1981.  The Statesman was first launched in 1984.

The phones were moved around as a result of Mr Pike taking away the two way adapter with the cordless phone.  Why have a two way adapter if it was only for the cordless phone?

The fawn coloured Statesman with push buttons would not have been compatible with the old GPO wiring/socket hence it was usually plugged into the adapter.

[Holly Goodhead]

Also Mr Pike states that the cream coloured GPO issued phone was retained by NB as June didn't get on with the cordless ones. 

GPO issued phones were subject to rental payments and effectively the property of GPO.  Usually when customers were in a position to purchase phones approved for use with the network they would return any rented phones.

If Mr Pike was referring to the Statesman why would he comment about the Bamber's retaining the phone? 

Does anyone know the model number of the Statesman? 

[Caroline]

I don't simply because the rotary dialled cream phone was first launced in 1959 and was synonomous with the GPO.  It could be found in every home up and down the land because it was pretty much the only model available.

GPO was split in 1980 with the telecoms side becoming BT in 1981.  The Statesman was first launched in 1984.

The phones were moved around as a result of Mr Pike taking away the two way adapter with the cordless phone.  Why have a two way adapter if it was only for the cordless phone?

The fawn coloured Statesman with push buttons would not have been compatible with the old GPO wiring/socket hence it was usually plugged into the adapter.

It was plugged into an adapter to allow for TWO phones and as I have already told you, the Statesman didn't come in the colour 'fawn'. Also why haven't you answered my question? Is it because you can't?

[The General]

So how did it work back in the 80's, you guys, if you had two phones plugged in to a two socket extension, if you picked one up then you could hear what was said by picking the other up? Like in the movies?
And what about and extension plugged in to one of those two of the two socket extension?

[Robittybob1]

So how did it work back in the 80's, you guys, if you had two phones plugged in to a two socket extension, if you picked one up then you could hear what was said by picking the other up? Like in the movies?
And what about and extension plugged in to one of those two of the two socket extension?

You could listen in provided you were clever enough not to make too much noise.

[G-Unit]

So how did it work back in the 80's, you guys, if you had two phones plugged in to a two socket extension, if you picked one up then you could hear what was said by picking the other up? Like in the movies?
And what about and extension plugged in to one of those two of the two socket extension?

If you picked up an extension to make a call and heard talking you could either listen in or put the receiver back down. I remember fax machines tying up the one line in small offices.

[The General]

If you picked up an extension to make a call and heard talking you could either listen in or put the receiver back down. I remember fax machines tying up the one line in small offices.

So WHF would only have one active line and if the receiver was off, then it would seem engaged from the outside, but you would know if it was off the hook elsewhere in the house from the inside as there would be no dialling tone?
As if Nevill would stop apprehending Sheila to give Bamber a quick ring to tell him what was going down. Jesus Jones everybody.

[G-Unit]

So WHF would only have one active line and if the receiver was off, then it would seem engaged from the outside, but you would know if it was off the hook elsewhere in the house from the inside as there would be no dialling tone?
As if Nevill would stop apprehending Sheila to give Bamber a quick ring to tell him what was going down. Jesus Jones everybody.

That's right. Once any connected receiver was off the hook the line was out of action. I can think of scenarios where Nevill might think he could use another man to help him; especially if he thought he was going to have to take Sheila back to St Andrews.  June had had a 'terrible time' in the car with Sheila in March when they took her in, despite her being sedated.

[The General]

That's right. Once any connected receiver was off the hook the line was out of action. I can think of scenarios where Nevill might think he could use another man to help him; especially if he thought he was going to have to take Sheila back to St Andrews.  June had had a 'terrible time' in the car with Sheila in March when they took her in, despite her being sedated.

I see it, but realistically, as he was apparently uninjured at this point, he could have easily overpowered her, knowing that a .22 would generally not be mortally wounding - he would surely have coaxed and cajoled her, then sprang on her like a jack rabbit, perhaps taking a round in the process to protect his wife and grandchildren.

[Caroline]

I see it, but realistically, as he was apparently uninjured at this point, he could have easily overpowered her, knowing that a .22 would generally not be mortally wounding - he would surely have coaxed and cajoled her, then sprang on her like a jack rabbit, perhaps taking a round in the process to protect his wife and grandchildren.

Of course!

[G-Unit]

I see it, but realistically, as he was apparently uninjured at this point, he could have easily overpowered her, knowing that a .22 would generally not be mortally wounding - he would surely have coaxed and cajoled her, then sprang on her like a jack rabbit, perhaps taking a round in the process to protect his wife and grandchildren.

Normally Nevill was able to calm Sheila. When he and June picked her up in March Freddie was amazed to see how she calmed down when her father arrived. He seemed to be the one person who could connect with her. If for some reason she thought her father had turned on her that would have been devastating for her. Coaxing wouldn't have worked then.

[Caroline]

Normally Nevill was able to calm Sheila. When he and June picked her up in March Freddie was amazed to see how she calmed down when her father arrived. He seemed to be the one person who could connect with her. If for some reason she thought her father had turned on her that would have been devastating for her. Coaxing wouldn't have worked then.

There's a heap of speculation right there! 

[The General]

Normally Nevill was able to calm Sheila. When he and June picked her up in March Freddie was amazed to see how she calmed down when her father arrived. He seemed to be the one person who could connect with her. If for some reason she thought her father had turned on her that would have been devastating for her. Coaxing wouldn't have worked then.

Perhaps, but at some point, when hypothetical Sheila is about to run amok with a loaded rifle, when it's fight or flight and literally a fight to the death, then I'm afraid Sheila loses 999 times out of 1000.