What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?

[G-Unit]

I can't see any evidence of an answering machine pre murders.  AE called him 7th Aug when he was still at WHF and doesn't mention an answering machine.  Nor was one referenced in police interviews.

No-one seems to have any evidence of one. One of those rumours perhaps.

[Miss Taken Identity]

No-one seems to have any evidence of one. One of those rumours perhaps.

Although I believe ther is enough evidence to convict JB and I BELIEVE HE DID IT,I still get annoyed with people adding 'thoughts' as if it is evidence... it throws the integrity of the debate. IMO

[Robittybob1]

No-one seems to have any evidence of one. One of those rumours perhaps.

Personally I don't think you can get an answerphone of the 1985 era to keep recording for 15 minutes or so.
I had one in those days and it would stop recording if there was just silence.

[Brietta]

No-one seems to have any evidence of one. One of those rumours perhaps.

According to Carol Ann Lee, Virginia Greaves left a message on the answer machine at Bourtree Cottage. He had one post murders so why would he not have had it pre murders.

[Robittybob1]

According to Carol Ann Lee, Virginia Greaves left a message on the answer machine at Bourtree Cottage. He had one post murders so why would he not have had it pre murders.

Even if he had one in the house pre-murders there is no evidence it could be used in the way people say it was.

[G-Unit]

According to Carol Ann Lee, Virginia Greaves left a message on the answer machine at Bourtree Cottage. He had one post murders so why would he not have had it pre murders.

I just wish she'd provided a cite, but she didn't.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I just wish she'd provided a cite, but she didn't.

Authors don’t provide cites for every single detail and expect them to do so is plainly ridiculous.  How would you include a cite for “Virginia Greaves leaving a message at Bourtree Cottage”?  Would it just be a direct quote and how would that make it any more acceptsble to you? Or would the only acceptable cite be to a recording placed online of the actual tape recorded message?

[G-Unit]

Authors don’t provide cites for every single detail and expect them to do so is plainly ridiculous.  How would you include a cite for “Virginia Greaves leaving a message at Bourtree Cottage”?  Would it just be a direct quote and how would that make it any more acceptsble to you? Or would the only acceptable cite be to a recording placed online of the actual tape recorded message?

CAL provided sources for most of what she wrote, so why not in this instance? In my opinion it was because she didn't have one.

[APRIL]

Authors don’t provide cites for every single detail and expect them to do so is plainly ridiculous.  How would you include a cite for “Virginia Greaves leaving a message at Bourtree Cottage”?  Would it just be a direct quote and how would that make it any more acceptsble to you? Or would the only acceptable cite be to a recording placed online of the actual tape recorded message?

I totally agree, VS. I have visions of the joy experienced by some, when given the opportunity to jump on detractors for not providing cites, and their mindless refusal to accept anything as true, unless it has one. I see it, primarily, as yet another form of denial.

[Vertigo Swirl]

CAL provided sources for most of what she wrote, so why not in this instance? In my opinion it was because she didn't have one.

So what source would you expect to see for this piece of information?

[Holly Goodhead]

AE makes ref to his tel on morning of 7th Aug and ponders how long it would take him to answer.  No mention of an answering machine.

I bet I know what's coming next... 

[Vertigo Swirl]

CAL provided sources for most of what she wrote, so why not in this instance? In my opinion it was because she didn't have one.

I have checked the book now, and the “leaving the message”:revelation is in Chapter 31.  Turning to the back of the book under “Notes and References” for Chapter 31 item 4 is listed as “Virginia Greaves w/s 12 th September 1985.  Unless otherwise indicated the quotes that follow are from this source”.

Next!

[APRIL]

I have checked the book now, and the “leaving the message”:revelation is in Chapter 31.  Turning to the back of the book under “Notes and References” for Chapter 31 item 4 is listed as “Virginia Greaves w/s 12 th September 1985.  Unless otherwise indicated the quotes that follow are from this source”.

Next!

Thank you for your diligence, VS. It may well be that both camps will conveniently turn blind eyes to that which they'd rather not see, but I can't help but feel that some are going to say that unless such WS, ie mentioned but not shown, can be made available, it doesn't exist.

[Holly Goodhead]

Thank you for your diligence, VS. It may well be that both camps will conveniently turn blind eyes to that which they'd rather not see, but I can't help but feel that some are going to say that unless such WS, ie mentioned but not shown, can be made available, it doesn't exist.

But what evidence exists to support the idea JB had an answering machine pre 7th Aug? 

[G-Unit]

Thank you for your diligence, VS. It may well be that both camps will conveniently turn blind eyes to that which they'd rather not see, but I can't help but feel that some are going to say that unless such WS, ie mentioned but not shown, can be made available, it doesn't exist.

We know that EP handed over witness statements to CAL which were not given to the defence. I think Ann Eaton would have been interested in an answerphone had she seen one. It's possible that Jeremy Bamber bought one after the event to pick up calls when he wasn't there.