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Offline APRIL

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #405 on: June 14, 2020, 12:39:54 PM »
We know that EP handed over witness statements to CAL which were not given to the defence. I think Ann Eaton would have been interested in an answerphone had she seen one. It's possible that Jeremy Bamber bought one after the event to pick up calls when he wasn't there.


An equal possibility is just because Ann didn't see one, isn't necessarily indicative of there not being one.

Offline Caroline

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #406 on: June 14, 2020, 12:59:27 PM »
We know that EP handed over witness statements to CAL which were not given to the defence. I think Ann Eaton would have been interested in an answerphone had she seen one. It's possible that Jeremy Bamber bought one after the event to pick up calls when he wasn't there.

No we don't,  we know  Bamber is claiming that and you are speculating as to when iyt was bought  to suit  your own  agenda. He had one, so the likelihood is tha he had one pre-murders.

Offline G-Unit

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #407 on: June 14, 2020, 01:01:15 PM »

An equal possibility is just because Ann didn't see one, isn't necessarily indicative of there not being one.

She appears to have examined the telephone quite carefully according to the statement I saw.
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Offline Caroline

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #408 on: June 14, 2020, 01:03:07 PM »
She appears to have examined the telephone quite carefully according to the statement I saw.

Cite?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #409 on: June 14, 2020, 01:05:22 PM »

Thank you for your diligence, VS. It may well be that both camps will conveniently turn blind eyes to that which they'd rather not see, but I can't help but feel that some are going to say that unless such WS, ie mentioned but not shown, can be made available, it doesn't exist.
And what is so galling is when these arbiters of "the truth" and demanders of cites are given what they demand, they fail to recognise it or apologise for making false claims such as CAL didn't give a cite.  Oh well twas ever thus.
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Offline APRIL

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« Reply #410 on: June 14, 2020, 01:30:38 PM »
And what is so galling is when these arbiters of "the truth" and demanders of cites are given what they demand, they fail to recognise it or apologise for making false claims such as CAL didn't give a cite.  Oh well twas ever thus.


They're too busy with their magnifying glasses looking for another non cite to it us with.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #411 on: June 15, 2020, 10:00:47 AM »
Personally I don't think you can get an answerphone of the 1985 era to keep recording for 15 minutes or so.
I had one in those days and it would stop recording if there was just silence.

You’re wrong.

We had an answer machine in 1982. We had to keep one in the house for business reasons.

What's more, it took full size cassette tapes and could record messages depending on how much tape was left: so if there was an hour’s time of tape left people could speak for as long as they liked.

We could also record conversations without the person knowing, which later became illegal — you had to inform them you were recording the conversation — but I doubt everyone did, or still does. Those machines are still in existence, although you won’t find them on Amazon or suchlike 😌

I still have that machine packed away somewhere, but I don’t use it as I have voicemail etc.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #412 on: June 15, 2020, 10:03:36 AM »
No-one seems to have any evidence of one. One of those rumours perhaps.


Why would anyone create a rumour pretending JB had an answering machine? What purpose would that serve?

There’s official notes documented that says he had one. I’m not hunting for them...I have a busy day ahead of me. But if you feel uneasy about it you’ll find the evidence.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #413 on: June 15, 2020, 10:06:39 AM »
I just wish she'd provided a cite, but she didn't.


Why are you doubting CAL?

Why would she tell a pointless lie?

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Offline G-Unit

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #414 on: June 15, 2020, 10:12:41 AM »

Why would anyone create a rumour pretending JB had an answering machine? What purpose would that serve?

There’s official notes documented that says he had one. I’m not hunting for them...I have a busy day ahead of me. But if you feel uneasy about it you’ll find the evidence.

If there are official notes why didn't CAL use them as her source? I'm not saying there was an answer machine, so I don't need to look for evidence. It's those who are insisting that there was one who need to supply evidence to support their claims.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #415 on: June 15, 2020, 10:24:44 AM »

An equal possibility is just because Ann didn't see one, isn't necessarily indicative of there not being one.


It’s quite possible that Ann Eaton wasn’t aware he had an answer machine. She says in her statement that the one phone in the cottage was downstairs and had a long lead, so he could have left the telephone on any table in either the lounge or dining room depending on where he last used it.

The answer machine can’t be moved far from the telephone socket, but the leads are are long enough to place it underneath a table if you lacked room or something. Holly said that Ann never mentioned the answer machine, but maybe she didn’t notice it or even see it. She may not have even known what it was unless she studied it.

It’s irrelevant whether he had one before he murdered his family or not; it doesn’t change anything. And he could have said he hadn’t had it switched on when he went to bed, so it’s all pointless really.

But considering he liked the latest gadgets of the time and wanted teletext television etc when he moved into the cottage, I’d say he bought one before he killed everyone as he was working on the farm and would have needed one for his illegal drug dealing.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #416 on: June 15, 2020, 10:33:01 AM »
If there are official notes why didn't CAL use them as her source? I'm not saying there was an answer machine, so I don't need to look for evidence. It's those who are insisting that there was one who need to supply evidence to support their claims.


Had CAL provided cites for every single detail in her book, she’d have never got it written. You can console yourself with the fact that as Jeremy Bamber is so litigious and studies every single WORD, had he not had an answer machine he’d have immediately put out that CAL was making libellous comments. His silence speaks volumes, I find...

I am indeed saying he had an answer machine, because I’ve read several cites that says so.

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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #417 on: June 15, 2020, 10:34:15 AM »

Why are you doubting CAL?

Why would she tell a pointless lie?

Considering how doubting you are of everyone it’s astonishing how you believe everything Jeremy Bamber — the convicted mass murderer — spouts.

I don't believe everything anyone spouts. I don't even believe they spouted it unless there's evidence showing they did so.
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Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #418 on: June 15, 2020, 10:38:33 AM »
I don't believe everything anyone spouts. I don't even believe they spouted it unless there's evidence showing they did so.

Well, as you’re so disbelieving and distrushut upl, why do you believe everything Jeremy Bamber says is true despite him not being able to give any evidence, and despite him making contradictory claims in his statements which were proved to be lies?
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #419 on: June 15, 2020, 10:45:34 AM »
Well, as you’re so disbelieving and distrushut upl, why do you believe everything Jeremy Bamber says is true despite him not being able to give any evidence, and despite him making contradictory claims in his statements which were proved to be lies?

It's you who is suggesting that I believe everything Jeremy Bamber says, not me. In my opinion you're jumping to false conclusions.
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