What would convince that Jeremy was guilty of 5 murders?

[G-Unit]

I think she must be credited with knowing far more about them both, than did the police who only knew what Jeremy had chosen to tell them. To be fair, I don't think she said more, of Jeremy, than has been said by most others who knew him.

I'm not so sure, April. She wasn't close to the family although she was good at gathering gossip in my opinion.

[APRIL]

I'm not so sure, April. She wasn't close to the family although she was good at gathering gossip in my opinion.

It's entirely possible that, although having, at one time, been close with Aunt June and Uncle Nevill, much of her current 'knowledge' came from information passed from June to Pam, and from Nevill to Robert. However, having, at some time, experienced one on one interaction with both Jeremy and Sheila, she knew more about them than did police

[Robittybob1]

The judge was the late Justice (Maurice) Drake.

Prosecution was led by Anthony Arlidge QC.

You have AA as the judge.

I was getting confused about that, thanks for the correction.  I have amended my original post.

[Robittybob1]

Where is all this coming from?

Prof Knight testified at trial to the effect that he thought it would be extraordinary for SC to have been shot in the manner she was by anyone other than herself.

The soc involving SC was interfered with by the police.  The police admit to 'probably' moving the bible.  No probably about it.

It is all from the book "The Innocent Man" written by David Shaw (pseudo).   https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=266.msg4508#msg4508

"Prof Knight testified at trial to the effect that he thought it would be extraordinary for SC to have been shot in the manner she was by anyone other than herself."
Is he talking about the first bullet or both?  I agree with him on the first shot to her neck.  I think that was a suicide attempt, but someone else finished her off IMO.

Once the Police start interfering with the crime scene I'm not sure if it is just to convict Jeremy.

[G-Unit]

It's entirely possible that, although having, at one time, been close with Aunt June and Uncle Nevill, much of her current 'knowledge' came from information passed from June to Pam, and from Nevill to Robert. However, having, at some time, experienced one on one interaction with both Jeremy and Sheila, she knew more about them than did police

The police's job is to collect evidence, not gossip and opinion.

[APRIL]

The police's job is to collect evidence, not gossip and opinion.

Well, they'd collected Jeremy's opinion, why was Ann's any different?

[Robittybob1]

Well, they'd collected Jeremy's opinion, why was Ann's any different?

Jeremy's biggest mistake has been to blame it on his sister Sheila.  He wasn't there so how could he possibly know what went on behind the locked doors.

[Robittybob1]

I'd love to read Scott Lomax's book "Jeremy Bamber: Evil, Almost Beyond Belief?"

[The General]

I'd love to read Scott Lomax's book "Jeremy Bamber: Evil, Almost Beyond Belief?"

It's on offer on Kindle for about $1

[Brietta]

In my opinion one of the first things to be investigated would be who has a motive and who has the means and opportunity.

Thanks to Bamber the motive immediately became Sheila Caffell's alleged insanity and the fact that she was there in the house gave her the opportunity.

The means was also there in the form of the Anschutz,22.  But the means for whom?  It was certainly the weapon of choice for Bamber both at purchase and for shooting rabbits and if the information I have read from his time in the cadets at school is correct ... a crack shot.
Sheila Caffell as we know had none of those attributes and for those who knew her and him that in my opinion had to ring warning bells.

How dare strangers who know nothing about the inner workings of what under normal circumstances might be a family who liked to keep very much to themselves, set themselves up to pontificate about them through the prism of Bamber's black propaganda.

In my opinion family members opinions are far more informed than are those of internet strangers,

[APRIL]

Jeremy's biggest mistake has been to blame it on his sister Sheila.  He wasn't there so how could he possibly know what went on behind the locked doors.

As he seems to have arranged the whole thing around her being responsible, why would he not? He'd have been aware that suspicion could have fallen on him from the off and needed to give himself an alibi-hence Nevill's alleged call- but I agree that he definitely wasn't there when he called police, and he did a superb job of implicating her with practically every sentence he uttered to them.

[Caroline]

I'm not so sure, April. She wasn't close to the family although she was good at gathering gossip in my opinion.

How  do you know she wasn't close?

[G-Unit]

How  do you know she wasn't close?

She admits she wasn't. She saw Nevill, June and Jeremy monthly at Osea Road camp site meetings. She last saw Sheila and the boys at Christmas 1984, having seen her once in 1985 in passing at the caravan site. She never had much to do with Jeremy until he became involved in the camp site.

[APRIL]

It has long been my belief that Jeremy was in control of the investigation. It was he who gave them chapter and verse on the happening within, and background history of the family, furthered by covert insinuations about Sheila's potential to commit murder/suicide.

 Today, this was taken a step further by the observation of a very astute lady, viz, if Jeremy had been told to stay at home in Goldhanger, the police wouldn't have had the dubious benefit of his input. How much different might the investigation have been? How much sooner might they have gone in? Would they still have thought they may have seen movement at a window? Would they have immediately realized that the scene had been staged had they not had Jeremy's information colouring their expectations?

[Robittybob1]

It's on offer on Kindle for about $1

You've got to have a credit card.