What would convince that Jeremy was guilty of 5 murders?

[Caroline]

She admits she wasn't. She saw Nevill, June and Jeremy monthly at Osea Road camp site meetings. She last saw Sheila and the boys at Christmas 1984, having seen her once in 1985 in passing at the caravan site. She never had much to do with Jeremy until he became involved in the camp site.

She admits she didn't see them often but does she say they weren't 'close'? I know she didn't have much time for Jeremy.

[APRIL]

Saw admits she didn't see them often but does she say they weren't 'close'? I know she didn't have much time for Jeremy.

Whatever her links on an emotional level, I feel perfectly certain she'd have had a deeper knowledge of them, through her family connection to them, than did police, whose 3ish hours in Jeremy's company had produced little more that the bell, book and candle aspects of Sheila's life.

[Robittybob1]

It's quite clear to me that the relatives worked very hard to persuade the police that Jeremy Bamber had committed the crime. They said it began because they realised that Sheila Caffell wasn't knowledgeable enough about guns to have used the Anschutz. Even so, Ann Eaton was telling Stan Jones on 7th August that Jeremy didn't have a normal relationship with his parents as he had claimed in the statement she was listening to him making. Right from the beginning she was drawing police attention to Jeremy and away from Sheila.

How usual would that be that other potential suspects have the opportunity to listen in when others make their statements.  I am astounded when I read that Ann Eaton "listening to him making" his statement.
#Jeremy's Life Counts. #Jeremy's Life Counts.  #Jeremy's Life Counts.  #Jeremy's Life Counts. 

I'm protesting at the apparent police corruption here in this case.

[mrswah]

Saw admits she didn't see them often but does she say they weren't 'close'? I know she didn't have much time for Jeremy.

I can well imagine she didn't.  Just my opinion, but I bet he got on the wrong side of her at business meetings, and she probably saw him as an arrogant and immature young man. She would also have known about him stealing from the family business, and about his reluctance to settle down to farming.

[mrswah]

How usual would that be that other potential suspects have the opportunity to listen in when others make their statements.  I am astounded when I read that Ann Eaton "listening to him making" his statement.
#Jeremy's Life Counts. #Jeremy's Life Counts.  #Jeremy's Life Counts.  #Jeremy's Life Counts. 

I'm protesting at the apparent police corruption here in this case.

The police certainly shouldn't have allowed Jeremy to make his statement within  earshot of his relatives.

[Robittybob1]

Wasn't it Ann Eaton who was given the keys to White House Farm homestead?   3 days later they find a silencer that the police never found while they were there.  How can we be certain it wasn't planted?  It certainly was tampered with.

[G-Unit]

The police certainly shouldn't have allowed Jeremy to make his statement within  earshot of his relatives.

No they shouldn't. They certainly shouldn't have allowed Ann Eaton to start asking him questions. She describes things he said, but they don't appear in his statement. Was a Detective Constable really capable of dealing with with all the people who were in and out that morning and taking statements too? It was mayhem.

[mrswah]

Wasn't it Ann Eaton who was given the keys to White House Farm homestead?   3 days later they find a silencer that the police never found while they were there.  How can we be certain it wasn't planted?  It certainly was tampered with.

From what  I  recall (and I might be wrong), the police had the locks changed after the murders, as they had broken down doors, etc. Jeremy was offered a set of keys, but didn't want to go back inside the farm, so the police gave the keys to Ann.

How can we be sure the silencer wasn't planted?  As far as I can see, we can't !

[Caroline]

No they shouldn't. They certainly shouldn't have allowed Ann Eaton to start asking him questions. She describes things he said, but they don't appear in his statement. Was a Detective Constable really capable of dealing with with all the people who were in and out that morning and taking statements too? It was mayhem.

Again, that that point they thought it was done and dusted and before you chime up with 'they shouldn't have done' - we know that and hindsight os a wonderful thing. There are things that don't appear in his statement yes, but that might be because the following day, he made another one to 'clarify; a few things about the first. I would like to see Clark's original notes.

[Caroline]

From what  I  recall (and I might be wrong), the police had the locks changed after the murders, as they had broken down doors, etc. Jeremy was offered a set of keys, but didn't want to go back inside the farm, so the police gave the keys to Ann.

How can we be sure the silencer wasn't planted?  As far as I can see, we can't !

Because it was their silencer.

[G-Unit]

Again, that that point they thought it was done and dusted and before you chime up with 'they shouldn't have done' - we know that and hindsight os a wonderful thing. There are things that don't appear in his statement yes, but that might be because the following day, he made another one to 'clarify; a few things about the first. I would like to see Clark's original notes.

A less professional outfit would be difficult to find.

[APRIL]

A less professional outfit would be difficult to find.

It was a time of unmitigated chaos, and a case more suited to the capabilities of the Met, than a rural Essex force. Days off cancelled. Leaves cancelled. Double shifts worked. Whatever their private feelings, they had to go along with the instructions of superiors. Unfortunately the views of said superiors differed.

[Caroline]

A less professional outfit would be difficult to find.

Taff Jones should never have gone off to play golf - it was his crime scene. Kind of understandable why he was unwilling to change his mind about Jeremy.

[APRIL]

Taff Jones should never have gone off to play golf - it was his crime scene. Kind of understandable why he was unwilling to change his mind about Jeremy.

I don't think he was a man who could easily admit he could be wrong. Changing his mind would have been tantamount to doing just that.

[Robittybob1]

Because it was their silencer.

There doesn't seem to be identifying marks on a silencer, so provided it is the same brand they all look much the same, so they could be switched easily.