What would convince that Jeremy was guilty of 5 murders?

[APRIL]

Wishy-washy answer like that does nothing for me.  So was it things like having a full English breakfast the next morning somehow part of your evidence against Jeremy?

Several of us have already said it isn't about one thing. It's everything put together.

[Robittybob1]

Several of us have already said it isn't about one thing. It's everything put together.

So did you just confirm that "having a full English breakfast the next morning is somehow part of your evidence against Jeremy"?   Just a teeny tiny bit of evidence against the man.
And what other teeny tiny thing adds to that?

[APRIL]

So did you just confirm that "having a full English breakfast the next morning is somehow part of your evidence against Jeremy"?   Just a teeny tiny bit of evidence against the man.
And what other teeny tiny thing adds to that?

No. What he had for breakfast bothered me less than that he managed to focus on cooking and eating it.

The hurried whipping away and flogging off all the family objets d'art bothered me less than did the fact he didn't call a family meeting to explain his actions and offer them whatever they wanted as mementos.

It bothers me HUGELY that he allegedly received a call from his distressed father, suggesting he needed help quickly, and he idled away time on the ludicrous and inexplicable, rather than immediately seek appropriate help.

Etc, etc, etc....................

[Robittybob1]

No. What he had for breakfast bothered me less than that he managed to focus on cooking and eating it.

The hurried whipping away and flogging off all the family objets d'art bothered me less than did the fact he didn't call a family meeting to explain his actions and offer them whatever they wanted as mementos.

It bothers me HUGELY that he allegedly received a call from his distressed father, suggesting he needed help quickly, and he idled away time on the ludicrous and inexplicable, rather than immediately seek appropriate help.

Etc, etc, etc....................

He called the police straight afterward.  What did you expect him to do?

[adam]

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2020/1391.pdf

This was published today. Pages 3-6 highlight some of the prosecutions case which confirms guilt.

[APRIL]

He called the police straight afterward.  What did you expect him to do?

Of course he did. As in straight after diddling his way through the phone directory looking for local numbers, and calling his girlfriend. STRAIGHT after would have been calling 999. Cars could have been on the scene in the 20+ minutes he idled away. NOT that it would have made them any less dead.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

So did you just confirm that "having a full English breakfast the next morning is somehow part of your evidence against Jeremy"?   Just a teeny tiny bit of evidence against the man.
And what other teeny tiny thing adds to that?

Of course it isn’t just the breakfast he stuffed himself with.

It’s the physiological fact that when a person is in HUGE SUDDEN SHOCK certain internal organs react. Besides adrenaline gushing through the body putting it in a flee or fight reaction, it automatically switches off certain stimuli so as not to interfere with your physical ability to escape or fight. The very first thing to switch off is HUNGER.

Therefore, when Bamber said he was “starving”, even that was abnormal.

He wouldn’t have even felt hungry, let alone starving had he truly been shocked, sickened and numb with emotional pain.

 

[APRIL]

Of course it isn’t just the breakfast he stuffed himself with.

It’s the physiological fact that when a person is in HUGE SUDDEN SHOCK certain internal organs react. Besides adrenaline gushing through the body putting it in a flee or fight reaction, it automatically switches off certain stimuli so as not to interfere with your physical ability to escape or fight. The very first thing to switch off is HUNGER.

Therefore, when Bamber said he was “starving”, even that was abnormal.

He wouldn’t have even felt hungry, let alone starving had he truly been shocked, sickened and numb with emotional pain.

But he was incapable of acting out any of those activities because he wasn't capable of feeling them.

[Robittybob1]

Of course he did. As in straight after diddling his way through the phone directory looking for local numbers, and calling his girlfriend. STRAIGHT after would have been calling 999. Cars could have been on the scene in the 20+ minutes he idled away. NOT that it would have made them any less dead.

If the caller who called Jeremy needed the police he would have called the police himself.  Why ring Jeremy and not the police if it was a serious situation?

[Robittybob1]

Of course it isn’t just the breakfast he stuffed himself with.

It’s the physiological fact that when a person is in HUGE SUDDEN SHOCK certain internal organs react. Besides adrenaline gushing through the body putting it in a flee or fight reaction, it automatically switches off certain stimuli so as not to interfere with your physical ability to escape or fight. The very first thing to switch off is HUNGER.

Therefore, when Bamber said he was “starving”, even that was abnormal.

He wouldn’t have even felt hungry, let alone starving had he truly been shocked, sickened and numb with emotional pain.

I think you have to take into account the history of the family.   He obviously had worked out the best thing Sheila could do for herself was to kill her kids and commit suicide.  So it wasn't a shock when she finally did it.

[Robittybob1]

Of course he did. As in straight after diddling his way through the phone directory looking for local numbers, and calling his girlfriend. STRAIGHT after would have been calling 999. Cars could have been on the scene in the 20+ minutes he idled away. NOT that it would have made them any less dead.

Make up your mind!

[APRIL]

Make up your mind!

Oh, but I have. I was answering your post -in which you say, following my description of an "alleged" call-the "he called the police straight afterward".

In point of fact, there's probably absolutely NO reason to assume he did any such thing. Why would he need to? They were all dead. There was no call. There probably weren't any abortive calls. He probably decided it was time to bring in the boys in blue but he'd just give Julie a call to let her know everything had gone swimmingly.

[Robittybob1]

Oh, but I have. I was answering your post -in which you say, following my description of an "alleged" call-the "he called the police straight afterward".

In point of fact, there's probably absolutely NO reason to assume he did any such thing. Why would he need to? They were all dead. There was no call. There probably weren't any abortive calls. He probably decided it was time to bring in the boys in blue but he'd just give Julie a call to let her know everything had gone swimmingly.

Don't bother answering my posts. 

[Brietta]

Oh, but I have. I was answering your post -in which you say, following my description of an "alleged" call-the "he called the police straight afterward".

In point of fact, there's probably absolutely NO reason to assume he did any such thing. Why would he need to? They were all dead. There was no call. There probably weren't any abortive calls. He probably decided it was time to bring in the boys in blue but he'd just give Julie a call to let her know everything had gone swimmingly.

I still can't quite get my head around the whole phone fiasco.  None of it makes any real sense and I think it was one of the things which sewed the first seeds of suspicion of Bamber for the police.  It just didn't add up.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I think you have to take into account the history of the family.   He obviously had worked out the best thing Sheila could do for herself was to kill her kids and commit suicide.  So it wasn't a shock when she finally did it.

Rob, the reason Jeremy wasn’t shocked was that he already knew they were dead!

He’d crept into WHF as cold as ice, with no feelings, and shot his whole family dead. He was capable of doing that. He did it with the same lack of emotion as shooting a tree for target practice.

I don’t understand your reasoning when you say he wasn’t shocked because “he’d worked out” the best thing Sheila could do for herself was to kill her children and herself?! How did he come to that conclusion?!

Energy if she had done that, which she didn’t, he’d still have been deeply shocked!

And how about his mum and dad?

Did he think to himself “Whoa! You went too far there, Sheila! You shouldn’t have shot Mum and Dad too. Bang out of order that is! I’ll leave this mess to the cops to get on with, I’m bloody starving. Gonna do myself a nice fry up with plenty of toast and a cuppa”