New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Wonderfulspam]

What we do know however,  is that the McCann's saw him for the first time when they attended court.

They likely prefer not to be reminded of that.

[G-Unit]

What we do know however,  is that the McCann's saw him for the first time when they attended court.

Did they need to see him? They saw the men in charge regularly.

[Lace]

Did they need to see him? They saw the men in charge regularly.

I think it would have been decent of him to go and see them to ensure that everything was being done to find Madeleine, but there you go.  In my opinion he thought himself too high and lightly to do that.

[Eleanor]

I think it would have been decent of him to go and see them to ensure that everything was being done to find Madeleine, but there you go.  In my opinion he thought himself too high and lightly to do that.

Amaral was too busy with his long lunches.  He certainly wasn't working, as evidenced by the mess he left when he was sacked and that Rebelo had to sort out.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Firstly you don't know when Amaral's first visit to PdL took place, you only know the date of his first recorded visit. Secondly you have no idea what he was doing because you don't have his job description. Therefore your criticisms are based purely upon your opinions, which may well be wrong.

Who was this predecessor btw? Or is it his successor you're referring to?

Oops, yes, I meant successor, must remember to post when I have properly woken up. 
And - All criticisms are based on opinions, that's what criticisms are, one's perception of another's faults.

[Brietta]

Firstly you don't know when Amaral's first visit to PdL took place, you only know the date of his first recorded visit. Secondly you have no idea what he was doing because you don't have his job description. Therefore your criticisms are based purely upon your opinions, which may well be wrong.

Who was this predecessor btw? Or is it his successor you're referring to?

This whole tiresome episode was generated by you when you posted "Amaral's book does describe how he went to PdL on 10th May, and he saw Murat with his mother. I didn't see any reference to a direct line of sight from their villa to 5A though. Was that mentioned in Amaral's book or elsewhere?" https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11585.msg693458#msg693458
And your statement in your post "you don't know when Amaral's first visit to PdL took place, you only know the date of his first recorded visit" is equally applicable to your supposition regarding Rebelo.

The difference between the two senior investigating officers could not have been more marked  Rebelo arrived,  "In the company of the team members that he brought in from Lisbon - composed of two homicide inspectors, one from sexual abuse, another that is experienced in robberies and two specialists in technical analysis - Paulo Rebelo tried to find details and loose ends that may open new leads or confirm the existing ones." https://themaddiecasefiles.com/rebelo-tests-scenarios-in-luz-cdm-30-10-07-t2344.html

In the event Goncalo Amaral brought with him peasant attitudes and his untried and untested theories none of which were confirmed as valid when tested by Rebelo's professional team.

Yet nearly fifteen years down the line he can suddenly call to mind that Brueckner was on police radar in 2007, but his team just couldn't be bothered (or were instructed not to) find another door behind which they might have located Brueckner had they knocked.

[The General]

I like accuracy and can't understand why people make inaccurate claims as that weakens their arguments and their credibility. It took 7 days for Amaral to visit PdL and 3 weeks for Rebelo to get there, so as an example Rebelo was a bad choice. Those trying to discredit Amaral will clutch at any straw without worrying about accuracy imo.

You keep on putting then in their place with cold, hard facts, kid.

[Eleanor]

If I remember correctly, Amaral did a grandstand in front of one of the few CCTV cameras in Praia da Luz.  Sadly it had already been wiped.  He also forgot to mention that it was pointed in the wrong direction anyway.  A fat lot of good that was.

[Brietta]

If I remember correctly, Amaral did a grandstand in front of one of the few CCTV cameras in Praia da Luz.  Sadly it had already been wiped.  He also forgot to mention that it was pointed in the wrong direction anyway.  A fat lot of good that was.

I remember it well.  There was an image posted on the forum at one time. T'was when 'the hat' was in vogue, I think.

[Eleanor]

I remember it well.  There was an image posted on the forum at one time. T'was when 'the hat' was in vogue, I think.

Yup.  The Hat.  That's the one.  Meanwhile, Brueckner went entirely unnoticed.  I really can't get my head round that.

[G-Unit]

I think it would have been decent of him to go and see them to ensure that everything was being done to find Madeleine, but there you go.  In my opinion he thought himself too high and lightly to do that.

I don't think it's part of the police's job to reassure people.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't think it's part of the police's job to reassure people.

why do they do it then?

[Wonderfulspam]

I don't think it's part of the police's job to reassure people.

Most of their time is taken up trying to clean up after people who don't lock their doors & windows apparently.

[Brietta]

Yup.  The Hat.  That's the one.  Meanwhile, Brueckner went entirely unnoticed.  I really can't get my head round that.

The horrible thing about it all is that Amaral was privy to information about Brueckner which he didn't bother to disclose at the time when it really mattered.

I doubt Brueckner was the only person of interest to drop off police radar on Amaral's watch.  Yet Amaral has conducted his vendetta against Kate and Gerry with unabated fervour in the full knowledge of the failures he presided over and without a blush for the money he pocketed as a result.

[faithlilly]

Please excuse them VS.

If it is a game they play - they really are not very good at it.  What they thought was the perfect put down was actually a bit premature as far as the back-slapping was concerned.

They think they've got one up by answering my post "We know that among the first things that Rebelo did when he took over the case, was to visit the scene and to walk in the direction taken by the man Jane Tanner saw on the night of 3rd.
Despite the plethora of photographs taken at the time, I've not seen Amaral in any." with a post "Rebelo took over on 8th October. He visited 5A (his first visit to PdL) on 29th October."
https://themaddiecasefiles.com/rebelo-tests-scenarios-in-luz-cdm-30-10-07-t2344.html

Totally in denial of the knowledge that Rebelo did not enjoy a seamless hand over from one professional to another.  It was at least a fortnight after takeover before any meaningful work could be taken because of the mess inherited from Amaral and his crew.

The knowledge which led to the abortive knocking on Brueckner's door quite obviously did not survive the transition and lay neglected until Amaral suddenly spewed it out in the midst of the German investigation.


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Don't you just love the way sceptics have to rewrite history to make their points.  Rebelo was faced with a monumental mess on takeover from Amaral; it is only thanks to him that they have had files to play with over the years as he had to waste resources digitising and trying to make sense of loose paperwork lying about all over the place!

Madeleine: New police chief's fury over the mess he inherited from his predecessor
By IAN GALLAGHER

Last updated at 22 October 2007


Paulo Rebelo, the new police chief leading the Madeleine McCann investigation, is furious at how it was left in disarray by his predecessor.

According to reports, officers have spent the past fortnight processing information left lying around on scraps of paper and following leads ignored by police working under Chief Inspector Goncalo Amaral.
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Meanwhile, a police source quoted in a Portuguese newspaper said: "There was important material lying all over the place that hadn't been considered by investigators.

"A lot of key information was discarded. The whole process is being reviewed. Putting all the papers in order has been a massive task."

Officers have been working round-the-clock to log on to a computer all information relating to the disappearance of four-year-old Madeleine from the holiday complex in May.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488802/Madeleine-New-police-chiefs-fury-mess-inherited-predecessor.html

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11381.msg688590#msg688590

As I said ~ they are absolute rubbish at it ~ but it seems to keep them happy enough, so best to leave them to their own devices.

Ah tabloid tittle tattle…must be true.

Least we forget Rebelo was rather eager to hold a further round of questioning of the good-time group and a reconstitution. From that it doesn’t sound as if either the abandoned paperwork or his walkthrough convinced him of the groups innocence.