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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17070 on: January 16, 2023, 04:46:48 PM »
Don't see why it shouldn't be.

Fresh set of eye re-assessing the evidence is never a bad thing  IMO
unless it’s the Met re-assessing the evidence in the McCann case.  Then it’s a very,very bad thing.  Innit.
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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17071 on: January 17, 2023, 11:26:49 AM »
The matter is not yet decided.

13/01/2023

"We are assuming that we are responsible, but are examining the circumstances communicated for the first time by the defense counsel, which are intended to establish a different local jurisdiction," said prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters.

The district court of Braunschweig refers to the ongoing examination and does not comment. According to BILD information from legal circles, however, the regional court tends to be willing to follow the arguments of the defense attorney.
https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news-inland/fall-maddie-wird-der-prozess-nach-magdeburg-verlegt-82541622.bild.html

I think this was an update, whats going on ? caveat  it is the press .

It would be questionable how soon the rape proceedings could then be opened. And if at all.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17072 on: January 17, 2023, 12:08:36 PM »
I think this was an update, whats going on ? caveat  it is the press .

It would be questionable how soon the rape proceedings could then be opened. And if at all.

It would take some time for new prosecutors to become familiar with the details of the case, apparently. They could then decide they didn't want to proceed, I suppose.
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17073 on: January 17, 2023, 12:19:30 PM »
I think this was an update, whats going on ? caveat  it is the press .

It would be questionable how soon the rape proceedings could then be opened. And if at all.

Just Brueckner's lawyer using a procedural tactic on behalf of his client, based I think on grounds of last German residency which brings to mind if memory serves me well, that when constituted arguido in Madeleine's case Brueckner expressed a preference for being tried in Portugal.

At the least should the grounds arguing for a change of venue be accepted it will mean a delay in a fresh team of prosecutors being brought up to speed.

It might work to that advantage and I think is proof that Brueckner's lawyer is a player with a well thought out strategy.

Apparently another venue which could be proposed is Frankfurt am Main.  So it will just be a time of waiting to see what the German authorities decide.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17074 on: January 17, 2023, 12:29:07 PM »

It would be frightully interesting if Portugal gets to Charge and Try Brueckner.  But on what Charges and when?

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17075 on: January 17, 2023, 12:32:37 PM »
It would be frightully interesting if Portugal gets to Charge and Try Brueckner.  But on what Charges and when?

Probably outside statute of limitation by now
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Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17076 on: January 17, 2023, 12:43:23 PM »
Probably outside statute of limitation by now

So no chance for Portugal.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17077 on: January 17, 2023, 12:46:36 PM »
Probably outside statute of limitation by now

Not for Brueckner it isn't. 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17078 on: January 17, 2023, 12:48:42 PM »
So no chance for Portugal.

Might depend on the charge. I've no expertise in this area, but the law (of all countries) can be quite fickle
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17079 on: January 17, 2023, 12:49:17 PM »
So no chance for Portugal.

I think there is every chance.  And my, wouldn't that be a turn up for the book.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17080 on: January 17, 2023, 01:08:43 PM »
Might depend on the charge. I've no expertise in this area, but the law (of all countries) can be quite fickle

The charges are for three rapes and two child abuse offences, aren't they?
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Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17081 on: January 17, 2023, 01:10:20 PM »
It would be frightully interesting if Portugal gets to Charge and Try Brueckner.  But on what Charges and when?

That would be the worst possible scenario as he would be found not guilty. It may also scupper German chances of other convictions. IMO.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17082 on: January 17, 2023, 01:15:58 PM »
That would be the worst possible scenario as he would be found not guilty. It may also scupper German chances of other convictions. IMO.

The precedent would be set should the Germans move the venue of Brueckner's trial on the residency issue.  I think it may actually have been a consideration when he was constituted arguido.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17083 on: January 17, 2023, 01:18:00 PM »
I think there is every chance.  And my, wouldn't that be a turn up for the book.

But what about the offences Brueckner has already been charged with in Germany?

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17084 on: January 17, 2023, 01:28:30 PM »
The precedent would be set should the Germans move the venue of Brueckner's trial on the residency issue.  I think it may actually have been a consideration when he was constituted arguido.

Portugal would have apply to Italy for the right to extradite Brueckner for the purpose of trying him for Madeleine's murder in Portugal. I think Germany would contest that and the case would end up in ECJ - again.
I don't think the venue will be changed in Germany as CB has already been tried & convicted once in Braunschweig court with no objection raised as to the court's authority based on residency. Furthermore, the additional 5 charges were laid by Braunschweig district court last October which was after Fulscher had raised the legal issue.
Finally, I think we would have heard by now, probably via Jon Clarke, that the victims (particularly Hazel) would be facing a further delay in proceedings. Such procedural issues would be sorted out far more quickly in Germany than we are used to seeing in Portugal.