New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[pathfinder73]

It is Taboo on this Forum on my watch.  There is absolutely no reason to discuss it in even the slightest degree.
And I am not having it.

Or perhaps you don't know that some Members have tried.

Gerry was saying paedos had taken her from the start. He was the first to mention them in this case.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I'm sure no one wants to discuss the ins and outs of paedophilia, but I don't feel the subject be totally taboo.
It certainly exists and may well have played a major part in this case.

Good point... I agreed with El’s sentiments but there’s a distinction between discussing their practices and discussing the issue... and I’m saying that as someone whose very close female relative was abused at a young age 😪

[Wonderfulspam]

Gerry was saying paedos had taken her from the start. He was the first to mention them in this case.

...and Kate was screaming about "the f..king b........s"

Somehow she knew there was more than one of them.

[Eleanor]

Gerry was saying paedos had taken her from the start. He was the first to mention them in this case.

It is the details that I'm not having.  But you know that.

[Eleanor]

...and Kate was screaming about "the f....ing b......s"

Somehow she knew there was more than one of them.

What a terrible fibber you are.  Nasty Person.

[Eleanor]

Good point... I agreed with El’s sentiments but there’s a distinction between discussing their practices and discussing the issue... and I’m saying that as someone whose very close female relative was abused at a young age 😪

Thank You.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Madeleine McCann: Family lawyer urges British, German and Portuguese police to stop squabbling
Rogerio Alves told Sky News the German prosecutor should tell Madeleine McCann's parents what evidence he has that she is dead.

Martin Brunt
Madeleine McCann's family lawyer has urged the three police forces investigating her disappearance to stop squabbling between themselves.

Rogerio Alves told Sky News: "This is not the Champions League between police departments. We are wasting time and we are spreading energy instead of co-operating."

There appears to be increasing tension between the German, Portuguese and British police about who knew what and when about the new prime suspect Christian B, who is being held in a prison near Hamburg.

McCann family lawyer thinks police are wasting time
The Portuguese police say his name was on a list of hundreds of potential suspects handed to the Metropolitan Police in 2012 when the force was preparing its own investigation, but Scotland Yard didn't act on the information.

A German prosecutor insists he has evidence Madeleine is dead and has launched a murder investigation, while Scotland Yard says it still considers Madeleine a missing person.

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The German prosecutor also suggested the Portuguese authorities still held her parents Kate and Gerry - who they once considered suspects - responsible for her disappearance. And he said relations with the Portuguese were "cumbersome".

Mr Alves said: "It would be a much stronger investigation if everybody is pushing from the same side. I don't even like to talk about the danger of competition in police because there is something much more important that has to be considered.

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"We are civilised countries, we are looking for the truth. So that kind of competition between police has to stop immediately if it really exists."

Sky News asked Mr Alves if he thinks the German prosecutor should tell the McCanns what evidence he has that their daughter is dead, as they cling to the hope she may still be found alive.

Rogerio Alves told Sky News: "This is not the Champions League between police departments."
Rogerio Alves told Sky News: 'This is not the Champions League between police departments'
He said: "I do. For the family it was a shock, although they realise that Madeleine, you know, anything can happen in 13 years.

"But the fact that the prosecutor is saying so strongly that she is dead, I think that he shouldn't say it without proving and demonstrating why he's saying what he's saying.

murder
"This is a crime, a public crime, a notorious crime, but they remain the father and the mother - they more than anyone want to know what happened.

"They are entitled, they have the right to know what happened with priority, especially when we are arguing that their daughter is dead."

The German prosecutor in Braunschweig has said he does not have enough hard evidence to charge Christian, a former drifter and bar worker, and has appealed to the public for more information about him and his vehicles.

At the time Madeleine vanished from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, the suspect had been living on the Algarve coast for many years.

Mobile telephone data appears to put him close to the apartment an hour before she disappeared and the next day he re-registered his car in another man's name.

How events unfolded in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

The suspect is also said to have confessed to a man in a bar that he abducted Madeleine.

Christian B is currently serving sentences in Kiel jail for drugs offences and the rape of an elderly American woman in the Algarve in 2005.

The prosecutor says there is compelling circumstantial case against the suspect and if he finds enough firm evidence to charge him he will stand trial in Germany.

Mr Alves said he may push for a trial in Portugal and added: "I'm absolutely sure that the Portuguese police will do everything they can to get to the truth."

[sadie]

None of your theories have gone anywhere Sadie.

The Spanish sighting, the Belgian one and the Moroccan one all proven nonsense.  I won't even mention the Romany one or the Irish gypsy for obvious reasons... 

Oh, the Spanish sighting, the Romany sighting and the Irish sighting ?  What are they all about?  News to me.

Cite please Angelo for all three.

TY

[sadie]

Just pack it in at attacking Sadie.

I won't Delete your nastiness because the likes of me don't do that to another Moderator.  But don't think that I can't make waves, because I can.

Thank you Ellie

Thank you Erngath

[Vertigo Swirl]

A detail from a report about Brückner’s in today’s Times struck me as most disturbing and indicative of the type of person we are dealing with here:

“Officers who searched a dilapidated former factory owned by Brückner outside Neuwegersleben, southeast of Hanover, discovered dead dogs across the site, some buried so that only their heads protruded”. 

[barrier]

That was the week that was,still no charges,won't be long now with the lead investigators, the brit press hard on his case.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That was the week that was,still no charges,won't be long now with the lead investigators, the brit press hard on his case.

It’s really very childish IMO to expect it all to have been done and dusted in a week.

[Brietta]

A detail from a report about Brückner’s in today’s Times struck me as most disturbing and indicative of the type of person we are dealing with here:

“Officers who searched a dilapidated former factory owned by Brückner outside Neuwegersleben, southeast of Hanover, discovered dead dogs across the site, some buried so that only their heads protruded”.

If true that is a singularly horrendous indication of extreme cruelty.  I've never heard of anything like that.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If anyone thought that the emergence of news that a paedophile and rapist was known to have been in close proximity to Apartment 5A the night Madeleine went missing would somehow bring to an end the campaign against the McCanns then clearly they were sadly mistaken.  Either he is a victim himself (of media smears probably  engineered by the McCanns) or he was working for the McCanns on a body disposal job, seems to be the sceptic explanation. 

[Mr Gray]

No that’s feeble. The dogs don’t lie and research shows them to be highly accurate . If they are irrelevant and they false alert all over the place then statistically the chances of false alerts to items linked to only one family would be millions to one surely... and we’re talking two dogs not one! There has to be a better explanation than “irrelevant” I’m afraid in order to explain what would be an implausible and statistically nigh on impossible coincidence. I’m afraid for me there must be a scientific explanation out there.

there is an explanation and i have supplied it several times