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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4200 on: June 30, 2020, 07:03:17 PM »
Are they actively soliciting funds through social media, adverts in the paper, interviews on the telly?  If not then I would suggest that nobody is donating to their fund, and why would they be?  Everyone knows that this is a live police investigation costing upwards of £12 million.  The idea that the McCanns would reject the “perfect scapegoat” in order to start up a renewed appeal for funds in the future which would have to be spent on actually searching (for a daughter you believe they know is dead anyway) is absurd in the extreme and I think you know it really.

Last time I looked there was still a donate function on their web page.

It also states there:  The full objects of the Fund are:

To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;

To procure that Madeleine's abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and

To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.

If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.

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3) To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.

Seems a bit vague to me, I mean if they needed new trainers or the shed roof needs re-felting they could just use the fund money by the sounds of it.

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4201 on: June 30, 2020, 07:27:40 PM »
Last time I looked there was still a donate function on their web page.

It also states there:  The full objects of the Fund are:

To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;

To procure that Madeleine's abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and

To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.

If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.

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3) To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.

Seems a bit vague to me, I mean if they needed new trainers or the shed roof needs re-felting they could just use the fund money by the sounds of it.
Well if you have any evidence that they are still soliciting and receiving funds which they are using for re-felting the shed roof or new trainers than feel free to present it here.  Personally I think you realise you’re writing a load of delflecting rubbish because you know that if the McCanns truly were guilty they would be only too delighted to endorse a banged-up already paedo as the iiller of their daughter.  If they want more money for the shed roof they can sell themselves to OK magazine for a 24 page spread, or Kate can write a new couple of chapters of the book and re-promote that.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4202 on: June 30, 2020, 07:29:29 PM »
Well if you have any evidence that they are still soliciting and receiving funds which they are using for re-felting the shed roof or new trainers than feel free to present it here.  Personally I think you realise you’re writing a load of delflecting rubbish because you know that if the McCanns truly were guilty they would be only too delighted to endorse a banged-up already paedo as the iiller of their daughter.  If they want more money for the shed roof they can sell themselves to OK magazine for a 24 page spread, or Kate can write a new couple of chapters of the book and re-promote that.

Have the McCanns ever endorsed any of the long list of suspects we've had over the years?
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4203 on: June 30, 2020, 07:29:51 PM »

Yes, a PAYG, like any other mobile phone can be traced; it’s always been that way, too.

All telephone companies keep track of all their phones they sell and if police want intelligence from then the company is obliged to share that data.

All phones, regardless of whether they’re PAYG work off masts

And every phone contains at least one unique serial number, and sometimes might contain two or three or even more. They have IMEI too. Then there’s the SIM identity too...

So, all the time, whether you are making a call or not, your phone is “talking’” to phone masts and broadcasting this information. It is an easy thing for the telephone company and therefore the police to match a phone call you make or a text message you send with the phone you used and its location.


Police can ALSO trace where that phone/SIM/both were bought.

When you buy a phone, even if you pay cash for it, almost certainly the cashier in the store will scan it, and also scan not just its UPC code, but also its unique IMEI/ESN number code, too. And even if they didn’t, the company that supplied the phones to that retailer has a record of the IMEIs of all the phones they sold to each and every store worldwide.

Of course, you also leave another trace every time you top your phone up with additional credit...

There’s another thing as well. If you leave a voice message there is a recording of your voice somewhere (BB watches more than people realise) and that can start to be matched against other voice recordings “on file’” at various intelligence  agencies which the police have privy to.

Another way of uncovering your identity is what else you used that phone for. What numbers did your phone number call? What numbers did you receive calls from? Which numbers did you send/receive text messages with? What types of websites did you visit? All the details of all your usage of that phone is stored and can be discovered by the police.

The police can even quickly do a data-filter search to find what other phones have followed you around! What other phones you have been close to, precisely when and how often...

Obviously, they’re only going to track/trace big criminals/suspects (such as CB) and people like, say, terrorists. But make no mistake: they can trace ANYONE. They’re not going to bother with some stupid troll, but if it is a serious matter such as suspected murder or a high-priority national security, then they can do all of this, and throw computing power at the problem like you wouldn’t believe.

So all this nonsense that CB could say it wasn’t his phone is utter rubbish.

He has left a trace whether he realises it or not.




I didn’t realise Hans Christian Wolton wasn’t chief of police, I wrongly thought he was. He certainly deserves to be one day — his determination and intelligence shines through!

A PAYG phone can be purchased today, let alone 2007, without ID for cash.  All features can be disabled meaning it is possible for criminals to make/receive calls and text only and the only electronic footprint is the cell mast calls/texts are routed through.

IMEI numbers etc are irrelevant when the dentifying numbers are not recorded against users which they're not with PAYG cash purchases. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4204 on: June 30, 2020, 07:37:21 PM »
A PAYG phone can be purchased today, let alone 2007, without ID for cash.  All features can be disabled meaning it is possible for criminals to make/receive calls and text only and the only electronic footprint is the cell mast calls/texts are routed through.

IMEI numbers etc are irrelevant when the dentifying numbers are not recorded against users which they're not with PAYG cash purchases.

Is the phone attributed to CB a  payg or is it in his name

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4205 on: June 30, 2020, 07:38:39 PM »
Is the phone attributed to CB a  payg or is it in his name

No idea.  I was just responding to ISpy's post.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4206 on: June 30, 2020, 07:40:23 PM »

What they’ve omitted to say is that drug dealers use “burners”

They buy a cheap PAYG from, say, Tesco, give a false name and address if asked, pay about £10 in cash; use the phone for just ONE DAY, do their deals making several hundred, then smash the phone to bits and toss all the parts in different locations.

Then next day they buy another.

That’s why when someone wants drugs, say cannabis/cocaine, they have to phone a certain number and are told to wait for a text from a specific number, who then sends a text telling the buyer where to meet them to collect.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11585.msg605162#msg605162
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4207 on: June 30, 2020, 07:43:40 PM »

You can't do this in France.  You can't even purchase a new Sim Card without Identity.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4208 on: June 30, 2020, 07:46:48 PM »
There quite possibly were.

Even data isn’t updated online as frequently as some people assume, but authorities have it.

It’s like, say, Google Earth. If you put your postcode in and look at your house you may see a photo that’s maybe two years old, but they have satellites scanning images all the time, including cars updating ground images. But they only update them online every so many years.

Who's they?

Even if authorities are collecting such data whether they can use it in a court of law is entirely a different matter.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4209 on: June 30, 2020, 07:53:31 PM »
In the same interview GA blamed the English dogs, brought to Portugal at the request of Kate & Gerry, for contaminating the  same evidence he said should never have been sent to FSS. Yet without the dogs, there wouldn't have been any forensics suggestive of Madeleine's blood or DNA.
Now we have the involvement of an unbiased German police force, with no political undertones, seeking to solve the case based on previously unknown evidence and Amaral is still living in 2007. The Germans have enough on their hands right now, which may or may not be linked to CB & his treasure trove. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-investigating-30000-potential-suspects-in-pedophile-probe/a-53984249
I totally agree. Also, Kate and Gerry were advised by Danie Krugel to bring in the dogs. GA was out of his depth and he pulled the blame-game. German authorities have nothing to prove/lose with Madeleine’s disappearance. They obviously found significant evidence, relating to Madeleine, in their search for Inga Gehricke. In my mother tongue, it is called ‘die geluk by die ongeluk’ which loosely translates to  ‘fortune with the misfortune’. Ps. Danie lives approximately 5 kms from me. I have met him once and his ‘device’ used in PdL, has since been patented.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4210 on: June 30, 2020, 07:56:17 PM »

I forgot to answer your other question...

Why haven’t the police charged CB yet?

I’m not a PO so can’t answer that, but speaking to friends of mine who are in that line of work it’s clear that HCW wants to throw the book at him. He’s also dealing with a very cunning psychopath who is the epitome of evil. He relishes in sadism and torture, and he appears bright. He knows he’s scuppered, and will now derive pleasure by keeping whatever power he has. Like Ian Brady who refused to say where he buried the little boy he raped and murdered. It made him feel powerful and he gained pleasure by keeping the boy’s mother in permanent pain.

So as he’s a hard nut to crack,  HCW has to outsmart him and play hs cards carefully

And he also needs help, hence his appeals.

It doesn’t help that the Portuguese police are so unhelpful and inept...maybe they don’t like to be embarrassed by the fact they had CB under their nose...

And....he needs to find Maddie’s body.

The Met has been at it for 7 years, with millions at its disposal, and got nowhere.  Hardly surprising when it has been unable to solve high profile cases literally on its doorstep eg murder of Jill Dando and Daniel Morgan. 

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4211 on: June 30, 2020, 07:59:25 PM »
You can't do this in France.  You can't even purchase a new Sim Card without Identity.
The same applies in South Africa. For many years now, pay-as-you-go sim cards have to be registered where one has to provide id and proof of residence. Otherwise, the service provider/s will not activate a sim.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4212 on: June 30, 2020, 08:00:53 PM »
The software installed in the phone would continuously send the GPS location to the carrier so there would be historic data. I'm not sure how long such data is stored, though.

I don't believe that's correct Misty.  Firstly it depends on the phones capability.  Secondly it depends on what the user chooses to disable/enable.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4213 on: June 30, 2020, 08:07:19 PM »
Have the McCanns ever endorsed any of the long list of suspects we've had over the years?
No, but then none has been as perfect as this one, or receivas much worldwide attention.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4214 on: June 30, 2020, 08:07:36 PM »
The same applies in South Africa. For many years now, pay-as-you-go sim cards have to be registered where one has to provide id and proof of residence. Otherwise, the service provider/s will not activate a sim.


I'm sure there'll be a way round that for those who want an unregistered sim
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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