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Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #810 on: June 06, 2020, 11:10:29 PM »
Growing his own marijuana plants is a small time local dealer and nothing more. Hardly scarface!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Erngath

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #811 on: June 06, 2020, 11:22:48 PM »
Growing his own marijuana plants is a small time local dealer and nothing more. Hardly scarface!

His present confinement in a prison for the brutal rape of an elderly lady is much more akin to the Scarface description.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #812 on: June 07, 2020, 12:04:12 AM »
A good, concise article in the Times which answers some of the questions I had about this.  Let’s pray that if it does go to court it’s in Germany and not Portugal (where he’d probably walk free, be allowed to prosecute the McCcanns for allowing him to kidnap their child instead and then write a best selling book about his ordeal).

What happens next to Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brückner?
Peter Conradi
Saturday June 06 2020, 6.00pm, The Sunday Times
The emergence of Christian Brückner, 43, as a suspect in the Madeleine McCann case follows a joint operation by police in Britain, Portugal and Germany.

Where is Brückner?
In jail in Kiel, northern Germany, serving 21 months for dealing drugs on the holiday island of Sylt. The sentence, handed down in 2011, was initially suspended, but in 2016 he was convicted of sexual offences involving a child and the following year of grievous bodily harm and so was then obliged to serve the drug sentence.

Last December he was given a further seven years after he was convicted by a court in Brunswick, Lower Saxony, of raping a 72-year-old American widow at her beachside home in Praia da Luz in September 2005, about 20 months before Madeleine McCann’s disappearance. It was his 17th conviction. The woman, who returned to America, has not been named.

Brückner has appealed to Germany’s Federal Criminal Court against the rape verdict, which is therefore not yet legally binding. The matter has been passed to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. He was extradited to Germany from Italy, to which he had fled in 2018, under a European arrest warrant.

With two-thirds of his drug sentence served, Brückner is eligible for parole. This is not automatic, however, and German legal experts have said that it is extremely unlikely that someone suspected of murder would be released early.


When could he be charged?
Brückner was revealed to be a suspect on last Wednesday’s edition of Aktenzeichen XY Ungelöst (File XY Unsolved), the German equivalent of Crimewatch — even though his name was not given.

In fact Brückner appears to have become a suspect in the case as long ago as 2013 after British detectives appeared on the same German television programme. According to Der Spiegel, a viewer then gave a tip to police in Brunswick, where Brückner was at the time running a kiosk. Police had passed the tip on to the Federal Office of Criminal Investigation but “it was apparently not acted upon, much to the consternation of the local investigators”, the magazine claimed.

Seven years on, Brückner has yet to be charged over Madeleine’s murder, apparently because there is insufficient evidence — which explains the decision to go on the programme again. “It is not enough for an arrest warrant or an indictment,” admitted Hans Wolters, from the public prosecutors office in Brunswick. Police have released photographs of the suspect and of the exterior and interior of his former home in Portugal.

Under German law, prosecutors are free to question Brückner about the McCann case, but it is thought that they have not yet done so. Judging by his past behaviour, he is unlikely to be co-operative when they do.

Legal experts were surprised that Christian Hoppe, of the Federal Criminal Police Office, who appeared on the programme, explicitly described the case as murder rather than as a missing person inquiry, as it has hitherto been treated by Scotland Yard. “That is very unusual,” said Arndt Kempgens, a German criminal lawyer who is following the case. “That can only mean they have found something else that they haven’t made public. Otherwise they would have spoken about a missing person.” It is thought that this something else could be photographs or information from other prisoners.

The German Madeleine


Inga went missing five years ago
Brückner has also been investigated in connection with the case of Inga Gehricke, a blonde five-year-old who disappeared on May 2, 2015, during a get-together in the woods with two other families near Stendal, in the eastern state of Saxony-Anhalt.

The parallels with the McCann case are striking. Inga’s parents initially thought their daughter had run into the forest to collect wood for a campfire. More than 100 police searched in vain for her for four days. Despite five years of public appeals and a reward of €25,000 for information leading to her whereabouts, Inga has not been found.

Brückner, registered as living 30 miles away in Brunswick at the time, was questioned the following February in connection with a piece of land he owned in Neuwegersleben, about 55 miles from where Inga disappeared. The land has a derelict former crate factory on it.

A passer-by came across some bones — apparently of Brückner’s labrador — buried there and alerted the police. In a bag they found a USB stick with pornographic image of children and a picture of Brückner naked.

Neighbours reported seeing him at the site most days in the three months leading up to Inga’s disappearance; he also appeared to have lived there for some time in an old caravan.

Investigators ended their investigation into any connections between Brückner and the Inga case after four weeks. It has since emerged that the day before her disappearance Brückner had been involved in a minor car accident at a motorway service area near Helmstedt, between Brunswick and Stendal, according to a local newspaper. On Friday state prosecutors in Saxony-Anhalt said they would reopen the investigation.

Third possible victim
Brückner is also suspected in connection with the disappearance of a German boy, Rene Hasee, 6, from a beach on the Algarve on June 21, 1996 — just months after Brückner had moved to the area.

The boy’s family, from Elsdorf, in North Rhine-Westphalia, had been on holiday in Aljezur, 25 miles from Praia da Luz. His father, Andreas, was contacted on Friday by police — the first time they had been in touch for 20 years. “There could be a connection,” he told the Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger newspaper. Rene had been running ahead of his mother and step-father on the beach on their way for a swim when they lost sight of him.

Although a body has not been found, Hasee said he had long since accepted that his son drowned, but told the paper: “He was actually also a very careful child. He would not have easily climbed into the Atlantic alone.”


Brückner was convicted of sexual offences involving a child in 2016
Where could he go on trial?
Under German law citizens may be tried either in the county where they allegedly committed a crime — in this case Portugal — or in the country in which they were arrested, namely Germany. The German and Portuguese authorities would decide between them.

If it were agreed to hold proceedings in Germany, the trial would be in a Schwurgericht (court of assizes), before three judges, assisted by two lay judges. Proceedings would be in public, although parts, such as those relating to sexual abuse, could be held in camera. The court may also visit the scene of the crime.

Madeleine’s parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, along with other people who were in Praia da Luz at the time of her disappearance, would be witnesses. The couple would also probably want to take advantage of a provision in German law allowing them to be Nebenkläger (co-plaintiffs) alongside the state.

This would allow them to put questions to the defendant themselves, heightening the courtroom drama. If convicted of murder in Germany, Brückner could face life imprisonment, which would mean a minimum of 15 years in jail.
@Peter_Conradi
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #813 on: June 07, 2020, 12:05:27 AM »
Growing his own marijuana plants is a small time local dealer and nothing more. Hardly scarface!
Yes, virtually Mother Theresa by all accounts.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #814 on: June 07, 2020, 12:20:04 AM »

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11781226/madeleine-mccann-news-latest-suspect-update-christian-b/
37 MINUTES AGO
MCCANN SUSPECT REGULARLY VISITED RUNDOWN COUNTRYSIDE VILLA

Christian B regularly visited a rundown villa in the Portuguese countryside after Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, it has been claimed.

The property, not previously linked with the 43-year-old German who has been revealed as the key suspect in the toddler’s disappearance, could now become a focal point in discovering what happened to the three-year-old in 2007.

It is believed Christian B often stayed at the villa in the village of Foral in 2007 and 2008 and parked his Volkswagen van at a nearby restaurant.

The villa is about 40 miles from the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, the holiday resort where three-year-old Madeleine disappeared, according to the Mail on Sunday.

A German couple who have lived in the village for more than 20 years said they immediately recognised him when he was named by German officials earlier this week.

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #815 on: June 07, 2020, 12:34:20 AM »
He committed suicide in prison.

I meant Brueckner. The three woman in the Cleveland case were kept secured in a house and fed by the perpetrator. How could this case possibly be similar ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #816 on: June 07, 2020, 02:05:30 AM »
I would think that everyone would be disappointed.

It was a hope of mine.

I still have reason for hope.  Wish I could share it.

BTW, in one of the reports mentioned in this thread, he was said to have loads of cash.   He claims it was from a burglary.

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #817 on: June 07, 2020, 02:19:28 AM »
I let my guard down and foolishly went with what I read in a tabloid.  8(8-))

Holly, the American lady and Christian B. did live down the lane/track from each other, but it is a long lane and they lived about 0.56 of a mile apart, crow flies.  The more northern part is just a track and maybe, maybe not, a small vehicle could negotiate it.

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #818 on: June 07, 2020, 02:45:15 AM »
They did nothing when he was pointed at. Then again, 3 years ago they received a tip after the bar chat. OK, they might have been looking at him closely just to make sure. 3 years is an awful lot of time.  I think they have been doing their puzzle and now close to solving it.

Yep, and it was 2017 that I noticed a definite change in the posting of several members on here.  They stopped aggressing Kate and Gerry, thank goodness.  I mentioned it on here twice, but no one else seemed to have noticed.

Seems they heard about what was going on, IMO.  Seems the PJ, or someone, must have leaked/informed them.

At that time, Amaral too was changing his tune.   Likely he had links to the PJ still and he got the 'tip off' that SY were on to Christian Brueckner and he pulled in his horns to minimise the damage to himself ?


We all wondered why no money seemed to have changed hands, from The Mccanns to Amaral, after The Supreme Court found in his favour.      Maybe this was the reason ?


These are just the thoughts that are in my mind .  What do others think ?

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #819 on: June 07, 2020, 07:17:48 AM »
Yep, and it was 2017 that I noticed a definite change in the posting of several members on here.  They stopped aggressing Kate and Gerry, thank goodness.  I mentioned it on here twice, but no one else seemed to have noticed.

Seems they heard about what was going on, IMO.  Seems the PJ, or someone, must have leaked/informed them.

At that time, Amaral too was changing his tune.   Likely he had links to the PJ still and he got the 'tip off' that SY were on to Christian Brueckner and he pulled in his horns to minimise the damage to himself ?


We all wondered why no money seemed to have changed hands, from The Mccanns to Amaral, after The Supreme Court found in his favour.      Maybe this was the reason ?


These are just the thoughts that are in my mind .  What do others think ?
The court order was for the McCanns to pay court cost's not compensation of any kind.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #820 on: June 07, 2020, 07:23:36 AM »
What people are missing here is that this guy could be an important witness to events of that night if he was around,clearly no evidence to link him,charges would already have been made before the rabid press got up if there were any.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #821 on: June 07, 2020, 08:30:18 AM »
What people are missing here is that this guy could be an important witness to events of that night if he was around,clearly no evidence to link him,charges would already have been made before the rabid press got up if there were any.

Nothing at all except for the absolutely appalling criminal record he boasts ~ the fact that he lived minutes from the centre of Luz and also used a camper van ~ the fact  his phone places him in Luz just before Madeleine was abducted ~ the fact that he left Luz immediately after ~ the fact that he 'came into money at the same time ~ the fact he was a prolific and successful burglar who was known to illegally enter properties via windows.

In my opinion the "rabid press" are reporting information being given to them directly and openly by the police ... that is the German and English police ... and have received information from the public as a result.

I'm hoping some of that information will be useful in providing enough evidence for the police to solve some of the heinous crimes they are looking into because he can be placed where they occurred at the relevant time ~ just as he can be placed in Luz at the relevant time of Madeleine's disappearance.

Amaral who for some reason best known to himself told the world about Brueckner in April and having perhaps deliberately interfered with an active police investigation as a result has been silent since.
But think about why he did that ~ he is not taking Brueckner lightly by any means ~ and I don't think you are either.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2020, 09:44:58 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #822 on: June 07, 2020, 08:36:21 AM »
What people are missing here is that this guy could be an important witness to events of that night if he was around,clearly no evidence to link him,charges would already have been made before the rabid press got up if there were any.
Ah, good point.  This burglar-cum-child abuser-cum-torturer-cum-rapist could have just been hanging around Luz that night, quietly minding his own business and seen Gerry parading through town with a corpse.  What a turn up that would be, eh?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #823 on: June 07, 2020, 08:58:24 AM »
Not quite.
I have posted this already.  You may have missed it or maybe you are ignoring it in the hope it will go away.

Snip
'It was conspicuous that he had boasted about a sudden financial windfall after he returned from Portugal in 2007. Friends remember him telling them that he had found cash in a pile of clothes, large sums of money, after breaking into a home in the Algarve.

'In addition to a mobile home, he also used the money to buy a derelict factory property in the state of Saxony-Anhalt.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8394183/Christian-Brueckner-flagged-key-Madeleine-McCann-kidnap-murder-suspect-SEVEN-YEARS-ago.html

I stand corrected.

However , I have read that his camper van was sold to a dealer in 2015 and later impounded by police.
If he bought a new van in 2007, then have police taken  the right van into custody?
Are the pictures that  we have seen photos of the van he had around 2006 ?

I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #824 on: June 07, 2020, 09:10:47 AM »
Ask yourself this,if you were coming up to retirement and yet the case you were DCI on, is about to announce the biggest possible breakthrough in the most infamous/famous missing child case in the world,would you opt on retirement and let some one else have the kudos or see it through especially after the profile you allowed Vogue to write.
Nope nothing to see here,move along folks.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.