New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Holly Goodhead]

No that’s feeble. The dogs don’t lie and research shows them to be highly accurate . If they are irrelevant and they false alert all over the place then statistically the chances of false alerts to items linked to only one family would be millions to one surely... and we’re talking two dogs not one! There has to be a better explanation than “irrelevant” I’m afraid in order to explain what would be an implausible and statistically nigh on impossible coincidence. I’m afraid for me there must be a scientific explanation out there.

They are not highly accurate at all.  They yap all over the place due to contamination.  Death is part and parcel of everyday life and all around us.  All this has been explained numerous times with reliable supporting evidence as follows:

The properties the dogs searched contained a high level of second hand furniture bought from dwellings where someone had died.  This resulted in numerous indications that required further investigation to confirm whether they were connected to the investigation, or to previous owners of the furniture.

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http://library.college.police.uk/docs/npia/Operation-Paris.pdf

[Mr Gray]

They are not highly accurate at all.  They yap all over the place due to contamination.  Death is part and parcel of everyday life and all around us.  All this has been explained numerous times with reliable supporting evidence as follows:

The properties the dogs searched contained a high level of second hand furniture bought from dwellings where someone had died.  This resulted in numerous indications that required further investigation to confirm whether they were connected to the investigation, or to previous owners of the furniture.

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http://library.college.police.uk/docs/npia/Operation-Paris.pdf

Keela only alerts to blood dried in situ wheras Eddie alerts to any old blood. This is in Grimes statement. That means that if Eddie alerts but Keela doesnt ..cadaverine is not confirmed.

[Wonderfulspam]

If anyone thought that the emergence of news that a paedophile and rapist was known to have been in close proximity to Apartment 5A the night Madeleine went missing would somehow bring to an end the campaign against the McCanns then clearly they were sadly mistaken.  Either he is a victim himself (of media smears probably  engineered by the McCanns) or he was working for the McCanns on a body disposal job, seems to be the sceptic explanation.

I thought he wasn't a rapist until after 2007?

And how close to 5a was he exactly?

[faithlilly]

They are not highly accurate at all.  They yap all over the place due to contamination.  Death is part and parcel of everyday life and all around us.  All this has been explained numerous times with reliable supporting evidence as follows:

The properties the dogs searched contained a high level of second hand furniture bought from dwellings where someone had died.  This resulted in numerous indications that required further investigation to confirm whether they were connected to the investigation, or to previous owners of the furniture.

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http://library.college.police.uk/docs/npia/Operation-Paris.pdf

Was there any second hand furniture in 5a ?
Was there any second hand furniture in any of the other apartments where Eddie didn’t alert ?

[Gertrude]

'Mr Alves said: "It would be a much stronger investigation if everybody is pushing from the same side. I don't even like to talk about the danger of competition in police because there is something much more important that has to be considered.'

How can PJ and Met agree with the German police if they haven't seen this evidence...or thought the evidence isn't evidence of much?  Also sounds to me like the McCanns want their hands on the evidence before the other party involved has seen the evidence in Germany. I don't think it works like that.

[Brietta]

'Mr Alves said: "It would be a much stronger investigation if everybody is pushing from the same side. I don't even like to talk about the danger of competition in police because there is something much more important that has to be considered.'

How can PJ and Met agree with the German police if they haven't seen this evidence...or thought the evidence isn't evidence of much?  Also sounds to me like the McCanns want their hands on the evidence before the other party involved has seen the evidence in Germany. I don't think it works like that.

If the police said your child was dead ... wouldn't you want to know exactly on what they were basing that? 

Your bias against the parents of a missing child is nothing short of extraordinary and does you no favours ... in my opinion.

[Holly Goodhead]

Was there any second hand furniture in 5a ?
Was there any second hand furniture in any of the other apartments where Eddie didn’t alert ?

This has been covered here in-depth in terms of the owner of 5A dying towards the end of 2006.

[Gertrude]

If the police said your child was dead ... wouldn't you want to know exactly on what they were basing that? 

Your bias against the parents of a missing child is nothing short of extraordinary and does you no favours ... in my opinion.

I observed what seems to be going on from the lawyers statements, if the McCanns want the files before charges are brought it may not be possible in German law.

 Germany is either withholding evidence from Scotland Yard...or
Scotland Yard have seen what they have and don't draw the same conclusion from the evidence which they could relay to the family couldn't they?

[Holly Goodhead]

'Mr Alves said: "It would be a much stronger investigation if everybody is pushing from the same side. I don't even like to talk about the danger of competition in police because there is something much more important that has to be considered.'

How can PJ and Met agree with the German police if they haven't seen this evidence...or thought the evidence isn't evidence of much?  Also sounds to me like the McCanns want their hands on the evidence before the other party involved has seen the evidence in Germany. I don't think it works like that.

It seems very undiplomatic for the Germans to accuse their counterparts in Southern Europe of being slow with France and UK on the ball or words to this effect.  I'm not buying into it.

[kizzy]

well them all working together is out the window as some think they are.

It is a joke an embarrassment IMO. - has OG got the money yet to be involved in this farce?

Wonder how many hundreds more they have to go through.

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-family-lawyer-urges-british-german-and-portuguese-police-to-stop-squabbling-12005556


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The Portuguese police say his name was on a list of hundreds of potential suspects handed to the Metropolitan Police in 2012 when the force was preparing its own investigation, but Scotland Yard didn't act on the information.

[Gertrude]

It seems very undiplomatic for the Germans to accuse their counterparts in Southern Europe of being slow with France and UK on the ball or words to this effect.  I'm not buying into it.

Yep, If the other 2 forces haven't seen the evidence how can they be expected to have the same conclusion as the German police? yet Germany is just choosing to slate the PJ and not the Met for being non-committal.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I observed what seems to be going on from the lawyers statements, if the McCanns want the files before charges are brought it may not be possible in German law.

 Germany is either withholding evidence from Scotland Yard...or
Scotland Yard have seen what they have and don't draw the same conclusion from the evidence which they could relay to the family couldn't they?

This is why the family should have been investigated to rule them out because sharing files with them would be a serious legal mistake. Does anyone remember CM telling us that the CEOP agency were sharing information with him? I was so incensed that I wrote to them about how inappropriate this was. After passing my email further up the hierarchy they denied that they did share information with CM. So either he was lying... or they were imo.

[Gertrude]

This is why the family should have been investigated to rule them out because sharing files with them would be a serious legal mistake. Does anyone remember CM telling us that the CEOP agency were sharing information with him? I was so incensed that I wrote to them about how inappropriate this was. After passing my email further up the hierarchy they denied that they did share information with CM. So either he was lying... or they were imo.

There are definitely problems around the whole CEOP thing IMO...but with regards to the McCanns getting the evidence file the Germans have, I don't think it's possible until he's been charged and they would become legal accessories to the prosecution and have special rights as relatives of the victim. As they don't have enough evidence to charge Bruckner now, it really won't happen until then as far as I can see.

[sadie]

It doesn’t explain how he could be called ugly by Tamsin Whatshername.

It appears his shaving cuts are what made him ugly to Tasmin.  Probably she would have a negative mindset about him anyhow, seeing him peering into her grandmas old home and also seeing him watching 5A.  That would be offensive to her.

Only IMO.

[Brietta]

This is why the family should have been investigated to rule them out because sharing files with them would be a serious legal mistake. Does anyone remember CM telling us that the CEOP agency were sharing information with him? I was so incensed that I wrote to them about how inappropriate this was. After passing my email further up the hierarchy they denied that they did share information with CM. So either he was lying... or they were imo.

  Who is CM ??