New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Mr Gray]

I thought Amaral said OG were using him as a scapegoat, I don't know if he said why.

The Germans are investigating him so why would the Germans want to supply a scapegoat to OG or the McCanns..

[The General]

The Germans are investigating him so why would the Germans want to supply a scapegoat to OG or the McCanns..

The Inadvertent Scapegoat, HC Wolters.

[Mr Gray]

The Inadvertent Scapegoat, HC Wolters.

if amaral says hes a scapegoat...then for some he is  a scapegoat.....which of course makes no sense because why would Germany want to supply  a scapegoat

[The General]

if amaral says hes a scapegoat...then for some he is  a scapegoat.....which of course makes no sense because why would Germany want to supply  a scapegoat

One man's suspect is another man's scapegoat.

[Mr Gray]

One man's suspect is another man's scapegoat.

depends on the evidence

[G-Unit]

if amaral says hes a scapegoat...then for some he is  a scapegoat.....which of course makes no sense because why would Germany want to supply  a scapegoat

I don't think they do. That was Amaral's opinion of their suspect.

[Mr Gray]

I don't think they do. That was Amaral's opinion of their suspect.

And Kizzy.. And CMOMM

[Vertigo Swirl]

No just me just look around.

It just seems to me HCW saw a chance to make a name for himself and keep CB in prison.

Hoping for anything on CB ....seems though that is coming unstuck.

In reality, the last thing the mccs would want is all its daily publicity from the media. but that's there problem

But must be soul-destroying for the twins with talk amongst there peers...about what could have allegedly happened to there sister.

Nice of you to show some empathy for the twins, however belated.  Imagine what it’s been like for them with their peers telling them their dad chucked Madeleine in the bin after over-sedating her and god knows what else.  Imagine what it must be like for David Payne’s kids when their peer group picks up on the salacious tittle tattle about their dad online, tittle tattle that you have undoubtedly contributed to over the years.

[Eleanor]

Nice of you to show some empathy for the twins, however belated.  Imagine what it’s been like for them with their peers telling them their dad chucked Madeleine in the bin after over-sedating her and god knows what else.  Imagine what it must be like for David Payne’s kids when their peer group picks up on the salacious tittle tattle about their dad online, tittle tattle that you have undoubtedly contributed to over the years.

There is no concern for The Twins.  Such people actively want these children to grow up hating their parents.  I don't know if this will happen.  Who can tell?  But the people who want this to happen are so much worse than The McCanns would ever have known how to be.

[faithlilly]

There is no concern for The Twins.  Such people actively want these children to grow up hating their parents.  I don't know if this will happen.  Who can tell?  But the people who want this to happen are so much worse than The McCanns would ever have known how to be.

Amaral has children too. Did you ever think about them ?

[Eleanor]

Amaral has children too. Did you ever think about them ?

Not a lot, I must admit.  So were Amaral and Sofia better parents than Kate and Gerry McCann?  What price driving your daughter around when you are drunk?  What price threatening your wife.

And what price accusing The McCanns when you have no proof.

[sadie]

Why would the Germans supply a scapegoat for the McCanns..

No, it's not that way round, Dave 

IMO, he might be the scapegoat for the elite person/people behind the abduction.   The elite people who gave CB a load of money for a nasty mission that he talked about to his friends on May 2nd.

[Eleanor]

No, it's not that way round, Dave 

IMO, he might be the scapegoat for the elite person/people behind the abduction.   The elite people who gave CB a load of money for a nasty mission that he talked about to his friends on May 2nd.

Dear Sadie,  Some of us have some difficulty with your explanation and find it all much more simple.  This doesn't make you wrong.  But you do complicate the whole thing.

[sadie]

Dear Sadie,  Some of us have some difficulty with your explanation and find it all much more simple.  This doesn't make you wrong.  But you do complicate the whole thing.

There are different ways of looking at things Elli - and it is right that the different possibilities should be mentioned IMO

You must remember that Scotland Yard are noticeably not agreeing with the German view and I think that may well be based upon my research, and reasoned belief that Madeleine was alive and well in 2012 - but we shall see.

I hate to be part of the madding crowd especially in cases such as this, and think it only right that my alternative lateral thinking should be mentioned.  I realise that maybe nobody follows my route, but it is there, and maybe some day soon, eyes will be opened.

I think that it is quite possible that CB was involved in an abduction of Madeleine, but I would hate for him to take the rap so that the barstewards that wholesale organise abductions and trafficking get off scot free.
 
No matter how elite they are, they must be stopped.


I would also hate for him to go down for murder if Madeleine is still alive. 

I believe in Justice and that he should go down solely for what he has done.   I think that there must be something big that he has done because of his boast to his friends on May 2nd about big money coming his way.  It seems highly likely that he was commissioned to take Madeleine.

And because of the date he made that boast and other things, like everyone else, I think that it is likely he is involved ….. but I don't know and neither does anyone on here unless physically involved.


Anyhow, we must wait and see.   May CB get his just deserts;   No more, No less

[Mr Gray]

There are different ways of looking at things Elli - and it is right that the different possibilities should be mentioned IMO

You must remember that Scotland Yard are noticeably not agreeing with the German view and I think that may well be based upon my research, and reasoned belief that Madeleine was alive and well in 2012 - but we shall see.

I hate to be part of the madding crowd especially in cases such as this, and think it only right that my alternative lateral thinking should be mentioned.  I realise that maybe nobody follows my route, but it is there, and maybe some day soon, eyes will be opened.

I think that it is quite possible that CB was involved in an abduction of Madeleine, but I would hate for him to take the rap so that the barstewards that wholesale organise abductions and trafficking get off scot free.
 
No matter how elite they are, they must be stopped.


I would also hate for him to go down for murder if Madeleine is still alive. 

I believe in Justice and that he should go down solely for what he has done.   I think that there must be something big that he has done because of his boast to his friends on May 2nd about big money coming his way.  It seems highly likely that he was commissioned to take Madeleine.

And because of the date he made that boast and other things, like everyone else, I think that it is likely he is involved ….. but I don't know and neither does anyone on here unless physically involved.


Anyhow, we must wait and see.   May CB get his just deserts;   No more, No less

A lot is being made of the Germans saying murder and SY saying missing persons...I'm afraid it's nothing to do with your research and really is quite simple.
The Germans day they have enough evidence to show CB murdered MM therefore s murder enquiry.
They have refused to share this evidence with Grange or the Portuguese...they want to keep it under wraps.
As SY. have no direct evidence of death then to them it's a missing person enquiry. As I recall SY have confirmed this.

So in reality there is no disagreement between the two forces