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Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8670 on: October 17, 2020, 12:16:56 PM »
Is every woman wearing purple that night automatically named "Jane Tanner"?

What idiot abductor would be outside staring at an apartment when all the family were inside and right in view of Murat and anybody else. Wake up! All the evidence leads to Tanner.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8671 on: October 17, 2020, 06:08:29 PM »
What idiot abductor would be outside staring at an apartment when all the family were inside and right in view of Murat and anybody else. Wake up! All the evidence leads to Tanner.

Slim and black hair?   Sounds more like NF, but we certainly don't know that

Was the lady in purple wearing her husbands parka/thermal jacket?  Cos Jane was cold and Rob lent it to her.   

IIRC Rob is 6' 6" tall


I bet she cut a lovely slim figure in that.    (&^&


No, I am not wasting my limited life providing a cite.   It's there somewhere and you must have read it before

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8672 on: October 17, 2020, 09:04:09 PM »
Slim and black hair?   Sounds more like NF, but we certainly don't know that

Was the lady in purple wearing her husbands parka/thermal jacket?  Cos Jane was cold and Rob lent it to her.   

IIRC Rob is 6' 6" tall


I bet she cut a lovely slim figure in that.    (&^&


No, I am not wasting my limited life providing a cite.   It's there somewhere and you must have read it before

Jane was wearing one of Rob's fleeces at 9:15 when she went to check her children. That doesn't mean she was wearing it all the time. The fact that he had no jumper on suggests that she took it from him at the restaurant.

On the evening I was wearing brown jeans/cord style trousers, a pale blue stripe top, and Jane had taken my jumper which was blue.  The nights were quite chilly which is why Jane had my jumper I am quite use to the cold.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

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Offline Erngath

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8673 on: October 17, 2020, 09:22:23 PM »
Jane was wearing one of Rob's fleeces at 9:15 when she went to check her children. That doesn't mean she was wearing it all the time. The fact that he had no jumper on suggests that she took it from him at the restaurant.

On the evening I was wearing brown jeans/cord style trousers, a pale blue stripe top, and Jane had taken my jumper which was blue.  The nights were quite chilly which is why Jane had my jumper I am quite use to the cold.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

And.....
Sometimes it seems you cannot leave behind that which is not of any further interest or relevance in any current police investigations
Or do you believe this is?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8674 on: October 17, 2020, 09:45:52 PM »
Jane was wearing one of Rob's fleeces at 9:15 when she went to check her children. That doesn't mean she was wearing it all the time. The fact that he had no jumper on suggests that she took it from him at the restaurant.

On the evening I was wearing brown jeans/cord style trousers, a pale blue stripe top, and Jane had taken my jumper which was blue.  The nights were quite chilly which is why Jane had my jumper I am quite use to the cold.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm
If that is the case, why would she be hanging around/loitering?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8675 on: October 17, 2020, 09:54:03 PM »
Jane was wearing one of Rob's fleeces at 9:15 when she went to check her children. That doesn't mean she was wearing it all the time. The fact that he had no jumper on suggests that she took it from him at the restaurant.

On the evening I was wearing brown jeans/cord style trousers, a pale blue stripe top, and Jane had taken my jumper which was blue.  The nights were quite chilly which is why Jane had my jumper I am quite use to the cold.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm
Topic of the thread is CB who allegedly said...
Who doesnt want to capture something small...and use it for days
I will document exactly how they will be tortured


But you are more interested in russel obrien  who said,......


Jane had my jumper I am quite use to the cold.


Which one do you think has any significance and is on topic

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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8676 on: October 18, 2020, 12:06:15 AM »
And.....
Sometimes it seems you cannot leave behind that which is not of any further interest or relevance in any current police investigations
Or do you believe this is?

I'm taking part in a debate about a woman in purple who, according to Jez Wilkins, was Jane Tanner. The debate wasn't initiated by me, so may I suggest you ask your questions of those who raised the subject?
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8677 on: October 18, 2020, 12:26:08 AM »
Topic of the thread is CB who allegedly said...
Who doesnt want to capture something small...and use it for days
I will document exactly how they will be tortured


But you are more interested in russel obrien  who said,......


Jane had my jumper I am quite use to the cold.


I wonder when CB will be charged?

Which one do you think has any significance and is on topic

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8678 on: October 18, 2020, 12:37:07 AM »
Topic of the thread is CB who allegedly said...
Who doesnt want to capture something small...and use it for days
I will document exactly how they will be tortured


But you are more interested in russel obrien  who said,......


Jane had my jumper I am quite use to the cold.


Which one do you think has any significance and is on topic



The 'Jane Tanner and the purple top' was initiated by pathfinder who virtually accused Jane of being the woman in Purple

 


Jez saw the woman in purple - Jane Tanner.

I must put my hand up as jumping to Janes defence and going off topic - soz.  But I was not alone in doing that.

And I felt it was necessary to point out that pathfinder was almost certainly incorrect, with reasons, with his statement.        His statement verged on the libellous IMO

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8679 on: October 18, 2020, 12:38:39 AM »
I'm taking part in a debate about a woman in purple who, according to Jez Wilkins, was Jane Tanner. The debate wasn't initiated by me, so may I suggest you ask your questions of those who raised the subject?
Yep, question pathfinder; he initiated it.

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8680 on: October 18, 2020, 12:45:32 AM »
The 'Jane Tanner and the purple top' was initiated by pathfinder who virtually accused Jane of being the woman in Purple

 
I must put my hand up as jumping to Janes defence and going off topic - soz.  But I was not alone in doing that.

And I felt it was necessary to point out that pathfinder was almost certainly incorrect, with reasons, with his statement.        His statement verged on the libellous IMO

From Jez  Wilkin’s Rogatory

‘Q. Relative to whether I know Jane Tanner;
Now I know her name, description of the clothes and photos which I have seen in the press. At that time I knew of her as a member of the group but did not know her name. I do not remember having seen her when I spoke with Gerry, but I believe I saw her when I first ventured out. She was stopped on the street in front of one of the group's apartments when I passed her down towards the exit to my apartment. I do not know if it was her apartment or not. I remember that she was wearing the colour purple. ‘

I think Pathfinder deserves an apology.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8681 on: October 18, 2020, 02:35:14 AM »
From Jez  Wilkin’s Rogatory

‘Q. Relative to whether I know Jane Tanner;
Now I know her name, description of the clothes and photos which I have seen in the press. At that time I knew of her as a member of the group but did not know her name. I do not remember having seen her when I spoke with Gerry, but I believe I saw her when I first ventured out. She was stopped on the street in front of one of the group's apartments when I passed her down towards the exit to my apartment. I do not know if it was her apartment or not. I remember that she was wearing the colour purple. ‘

I think Pathfinder deserves an apology.

Mrs  Murat saw a woman in a plum top standing outside the family's apartment en route to Baptista supermarket.   About 19h50 she went to the "Batista" supermarket to buy bread.  She would have travelled down Rua Dr Francisco G.M. where the tapas group all walked to and from their apartments to the Tapas restaurant

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JENNIFER-MURAT.htm


 Mrs Murat also described seeing a woman standing outside the (McCann) family's apartment on the night Madeleine went missing.

"I noticed her there and she kind of looked as if she was trying to hide from me. I do remember she was wearing a plum-coloured top," she said.

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/15261405.algarve-resident-tells-of-car-sighting-near-madeleine-mccann-apartment/


In his statement Jez describes a woman wearing purple standing outside the apartments to the 'group'.  His words are, as taken from your quote,   " She was stopped on the street in front of one of the group's apartments when I passed her down towards the exit to my apartment".   This was on Rua Aghostina de Silva.

Jez knew which the McCann apartment was, so the woman in purple wasn't standing outside their apartment and she was not on Mrs Murats route to Baptista supermarket.


In the meantime from Jane Tanners May4th statement

At about 19.00 they all went back to their own apartments with the children. The witness bathed her children, read them a story and put them to bed. E**e who was unwell and having trouble sleeping, stayed with her father, who had arrived in the meantime. The witness went for dinner at the Tapas restaurant at about 20.30.

Timewise it could physically have been Jane, but so many differences it seems very unlikely.
-  Wearing purple v Maroon top ?
-  Slim, long black haired woman v Janes regular figure, not one most would describe as slim and brown hair, not black
-  Rua Aghostina v Rua Francisco
-  7.50pm v 8.15 pm

It all very tenuous.
What I truly resent is pathfinder virtually accusing Jane of being the woman in purple, when he doesn't know.  Stop it pathfinder; you go too far.   A bit of honour would go down well.

No apology from me.  Pathfinder owes Jane an apology though

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8682 on: October 18, 2020, 08:17:15 AM »
I think it's probable that HCW has proof of abduction,..he just needs to be able to prove CB was involved

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8683 on: October 18, 2020, 08:24:28 AM »
I think it's probable that HCW has proof of abduction,..he just needs to be able to prove CB was involved
And I doubt it involves Jane Tanner or the colour of her top.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8684 on: October 18, 2020, 08:39:46 AM »
And I doubt it involves Jane Tanner or the colour of her top.

Proof of abduction will make much of what has been discussed and claimed on this forum redundant and irrelevant...it will also expose the initial PJ investigation and Amarals book as proof of the total shambles that the PJ were responsible for