New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Eleanor]

In my opinion prosecutors are not spokespeople.

They are in mine.

[Mr Gray]

In my opinion prosecutors are not spokespeople.

Perhaps you and other posters think Wolters is handling this whole investigation on his own.
I'm sure there is, a team of detectives who are collecting and collating evidence.  Part of this will be the phone calls.  Do you think Wolters is working it all out himself.  Wolters, will have been told the end result of the evidence and may not have asked for all the details.  In that respect he is acting as a spokesman for his team

From over a year ago

[Brietta]

In my opinion prosecutors are not spokespeople.

In my opinion the current attack on a respected member is nothing short of an aberration based on total misunderstanding and misinterpretation of the German system.

In my opinion Wolters has already stated precisely why he is doing nothing at all regarding Brueckner and as I have said before - that is based on his superior knowledge of German law as opposed to the biased ignorance of internet posters.
All in combination with an apparent inability to assimilate unwelcome information freely broadcast on MSM.

Brueckner is going nowhere for the next few years ... if there is a case to be made against him I'm quite content for time to be taken to make it bomb proof ... similarly if there is no case to be found against him ~ I am quite content for the prosecution to get that right too.

I only wish that the same vociferous considerations Brueckner enjoys had been extended to Madeleine's parents by his apologists.

[Mr Gray]

In my opinion prosecutors are not spokespeople.

Can you imagine amaral or the Portuguese prosecutor being asked to explain the DNA evidence...

[Mr Gray]

I've been doing some thinking and trying to rationalise what I've read re Wolters and disclosure of evidence on questioning. its  a shame that a poster actually bringing some important points is badly treated whilst the forum discusses psychics. Myasia and videos in a concluded rape case.

I'm absolutely certain I read in june that Wolters doesnt want to question CB as he would have to disclose his evidence. I thought at the time that ties in with arguido status...unfortunately I cant find that article today...but..

What I did find was an explanation that on arrest a suspect has the right to see the evidence file...this can be refused on the grounds that it might prejudice the investigation but is not guaranteed.

So does Wolters have to arrest CB in order to question him...obviously imo he does. Cb can refuse to be questioned...refuse to leave his cell to be taken for questioning...he could only be compelled if he was arrested.

Once arrested he has the right to see the evidence.

Wolters needs to question him even if he knows CB will take his right to silence ...as I understand silence at interview can harm his defence in court.

So...afaiac Im absolutely right that wolters will have to disclose when CB is questioned...Ill see if I can find the article again then I can post it as fact...but I'm absolutely certain it is

[Eleanor]

I've been doing some thinking and trying to rationalise what I've read re Wolters and disclosure of evidence on questioning. its  a shame that a poster actually bringing some important points is badly treated whilst the forum discusses psychics. Myasia and videos in a concluded rape case.

I'm absolutely certain I read in june that Wolters doesnt want to question CB as he would have to disclose his evidence. I thought at the tiem that ties in with arguido status...unfortunately I cant find that article today...but..

What I did find was an explanation that on arrest a suspect has the right to see the evidence file...this can be refused on the grounds that it might prejudice the investigation but is not guaranteed.

So does wolters have to arrest CB in order to question him...obviously imo he does. Cb can refuse to be questioned...refuse to leave his cell to be taken for questioning...he could only be compelled if he was arrested.

Once arrested he has the right to see the evidence.

wolters need sto question him even if he knows CB wil take his right to silence ...as I understand silence at interview can harm his defence in court.

So...afaiac Im absolutely right that wolters will have to disclose when CB is questioned...Ill see if I can find the article again then I can post it as fact...but I'm absolutely certain it is

Mute of Malice.

[Mr Gray]

This is what ive read...access to the case file the day after arrest and access to the full file  aweek after..

You will not, however, have access to the case file until
you are brought before the investigative judge. This
must happen the day following your arrest. In principle,
your lawyer will not see the case file before that stage
either but, in some circumstances, s/he may be allowed
to see a document summarising the charges against
you.
It will take approximately a week after your first court
hearing before your lawyer is granted full access to the
case file, which is in German. Access to the file at this
stage will only be restricted if it could jeopardize the
investigations.

https://www.fairtrials.org/wp-content/uploads/Germany-advice-note.pdf

[Vertigo Swirl]

I've been doing some thinking and trying to rationalise what I've read re Wolters and disclosure of evidence on questioning. its  a shame that a poster actually bringing some important points is badly treated whilst the forum discusses psychics. Myasia and videos in a concluded rape case.

I'm absolutely certain I read in june that Wolters doesnt want to question CB as he would have to disclose his evidence. I thought at the time that ties in with arguido status...unfortunately I cant find that article today...but..

What I did find was an explanation that on arrest a suspect has the right to see the evidence file...this can be refused on the grounds that it might prejudice the investigation but is not guaranteed.

So does Wolters have to arrest CB in order to question him...obviously imo he does. Cb can refuse to be questioned...refuse to leave his cell to be taken for questioning...he could only be compelled if he was arrested.

Once arrested he has the right to see the evidence.

Wolters needs to question him even if he knows CB will take his right to silence ...as I understand silence at interview can harm his defence in court.

So...afaiac Im absolutely right that wolters will have to disclose when CB is questioned...Ill see if I can find the article again then I can post it as fact...but I'm absolutely certain it is

is this the article Davel?

Authorities believe Brueckner may be involved in the disappearance of multiple children, and are determined to find enough evidence to link him to at least one case.

But German laws allow a suspect to access their case file as soon as they are identified, and prosecutors want to prevent Brueckner's legal team from seeing the file until they are ready to charge him. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8399017/Police-NOT-questioned-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner.html

[Mr Gray]

is this the article Davel?

Authorities believe Brueckner may be involved in the disappearance of multiple children, and are determined to find enough evidence to link him to at least one case.

But German laws allow a suspect to access their case file as soon as they are identified, and prosecutors want to prevent Brueckner's legal team from seeing the file until they are ready to charge him. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8399017/Police-NOT-questioned-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner.html

Thats the one. So two points..

Wolters is delaying questioning to delay disclosing his evidence

Once questioned and I think its fair to say this will involve arrest...Wolters will have to divulge his evidence

[Mr Gray]

then theres this...

'Of course it would be easier for us if we could share our findings instead of always having to say, "We have something, but can't say what it is.''

'At the same time, there is a danger that witnesses could mix memories and reporting.'

'We as prosecutors therefore prefer to investigate in secret,' Wolters added.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8424065/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-told-letter-written-German-prosecutors-dead.html


it seems clear to me ...Wolters is thinking of a trial

[Brietta]

Thats the one. So two points..

Wolters is delaying questioning to delay disclosing his evidence

Once questioned and I think its fair to say this will involve arrest...Wolters will have to divulge his evidence

It is clear that the German prosecutors strongly suspect that Brueckner may be a serial offender and that Madeleine's is not the only disappearance being investigated.
The stakes are high in seeking justice not only for Madeleine but for others who are missing over the years from places which can be associated with Brueckner.

What is objectionable about that bearing in mind the history of this man?   

[jassi]

It is clear that the German prosecutors strongly suspect that Brueckner may be a serial offender and that Madeleine's is not the only disappearance being investigated.
The stakes are high in seeking justice not only for Madeleine but for others who are missing over the years from places which can be associated with Brueckner.

What is objectionable about that bearing in mind the history of this man?

Of course he's a serial offender. How many prison terms has he served ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Of course he's a serial offender. How many prison terms has he served ?

I think Brietta meant a serial abductor/murderer.

[Brietta]

I think Brietta meant a serial abductor/murderer.

I'm glad you understand the point I was making, VS.  I thought it was clear enough for everyone, but obviously not.

[faithlilly]

I'm glad you understand the point I was making, VS.  I thought it was clear enough for everyone, but obviously not.

You said serial offender...you did not specify what offence. IMO Jassi was quite right to assume what she did.