New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Brietta]

Evidence which doesn't lead to a conviction is insufficient evidence and can thereafter be dismissed as lies/misinterpretations/wishful thinking in my experience. I've seen it in action for years.

Exactly what have you " ... seen it in action for years" in relation to Madeleine's case?

Brueckner didn't appear on the scene until Amaral 'outed' him prematurely in 2019.  As far as I know over the years there has not been another either with the profile or the back-up evidence to merit being made the prime suspect for all the forces of law and order involved in his investigation.

Do share with us the 'benefits' of your 'experience' - I am sure they must be riveting.

[Eleanor]

In my opinion Brueckner's lawyers have the information as part of the process pertaining to the five sexual crimes the prosecutors hope to bring to trial.

In my opinion the files on Madeleine's case will not be handed over until those cases have been tried.

I thought EVERYONE knew that.  The media has been full of it.

Just making sure that there are Individual Sentences for each Crime.  In My Opinion.

[Wonderfulspam]

Exactly what have you " ... seen it in action for years" in relation to Madeleine's case?

Brueckner didn't appear on the scene until Amaral 'outed' him prematurely in 2019.  As far as I know over the years there has not been another either with the profile or the back-up evidence to merit being made the prime suspect for all the forces of law and order involved in his investigation.

Do share with us the 'benefits' of your 'experience' - I am sure they must be riveting.

What's the back up evidence they have against Brueckner then?

I mean, it obviously isn't much use whatever it is, because they're not charging him anytime soon.

[Brietta]

Failure by the police to secure a conviction despite any  compelling evidence they may have against CB can be a reason for utmost rejoicing by those who will thereafter enjoy carte blanche to continue their campaign of lies/misinterpretation and wishful thinking pushing the "parents dunnit" theory - I bet you can't wait for that day.

My opinion is that the police have carefully chosen the cases they intend to bring to trial and that includes the evidence re two rape cases none of us have ever really heard about in any great detail.

The assault on the beach relies on direct evidence from the witnesses.

The assault on the children in the playground is supported by direct evidence of the parents involved including an off duty police officer.

The rape and torture of Ms Behan.

Nothing at all reliant on hear say ~ all first hand and in the case of the two rapes I believe the evidence is electronic, although the police might have traced the victims.   Who knows?

I think the dangers posed by Brueckner of flight and danger to the public which were if memory serves me well, were the reasons behind the refusal of his request for early release.

Anyway, now that the cops have taken him off the streets, I think the intention will be to keep him where he can do no more harm with his criminality.

[jassi]

Just making sure that there are Individual Sentences for each Crime.  In My Opinion.

They may run concurrently.
Anyway, why should it be of any concern to anyone, other than maybe a victim?

Brueckner is only of interest in relationship to Madeleine as far as I'm concerned.
Without her, you'd never have heard of him.

[Rossb]

Well the police said the child being carried resembled that of Madeleine at the time, no one has since  claimed it wasn't Madeleine, unlike the tanner sighting where the police cast doubt .

This could have been a crucial sighting. Im just not open to smiths version. I think he said it wadnt murat nor bruckner. But he had four months to identify gerry mccann, it was all over news. Anyways he claims to be 60 to 80 percent sure, not sure how you calculate that lol, by walking down an aircraft carrier?!!!!!

[Brietta]

This could have been a crucial sighting. Im just not open to smiths version. I think he said it wadnt murat nor bruckner. But he had four months to identify gerry mccann, it was all over news. Anyways he claims to be 60 to 80 percent sure, not sure how you calculate that lol, by walking down an aircraft carrier?!!!!!

I believe Smithman is an irrelevance.  I have thought so from the time I discovered that the sighting was not reported to the police for a fortnight.

As far as Brueckner is concerned :-
we know that he was on the police radar at the beginning of the investigation
we know they tried to contact him unsuccessfully
we know that no-one followed through on tracing him
from thereon in we know that as far as Madeleine was concerned he vanished in plain sight but continued with his criminality.

If Brueckner or an accomplice proves to have been the person seen and reported immediately to the police at the time - I would certainly be more than a little interested why he was dropped from the inquiry early days and without interview..

[Rossb]

I believe Smithman is an irrelevance.  I have thought so from the time I discovered that the sighting was not reported to the police for a fortnight.

As far as Brueckner is concerned :-
we know that he was on the police radar at the beginning of the investigation
we know they tried to contact him unsuccessfully
we know that no-one followed through on tracing him
from thereon in we know that as far as Madeleine was concerned he vanished in plain sight but continued with his criminality.

If Brueckner or an accomplice proves to have been the person seen and reported immediately to the police at the time - I would certainly be more than a little interested why he was dropped from the inquiry early days and without interview..

Well thats it he was never questioned but then cleared somehow.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well thats it he was never questioned but then cleared somehow.

He was cleared by virtue of the fact that his surname wasn't McCann.  Everyone who doesn't have that surname eventually gets cleared.  Only the McCanns remain "uncleared" - and that's a sceptic FACT.

[Wonderfulspam]

He was cleared by virtue of the fact that his surname wasn't McCann.  Everyone who doesn't have that surname eventually gets cleared.  Only the McCanns remain "uncleared" - and that's a sceptic FACT.

Well, there's no evidence Brueckner ever set eyes on Maddie really is there, where as the last people to claim to see her alive are her parents.

I mean, bit difficult to rule them out really isn't it, in fairness.

[Wonderfulspam]

Still, the 3 investigative forces have managed to rule them out entirely, on account of all the abduction evidence.

Bit weird then that all this abduction evidence can't be linked to Brueckner in any way though. They only have him for the murder, apparently, although, they won't be convicting him of murder anytime in the foreseeable future either.

But maybe after that, we can always hope can't we.

[barrier]

This could have been a crucial sighting. Im just not open to smiths version. I think he said it wadnt murat nor bruckner. But he had four months to identify gerry mccann, it was all over news. Anyways he claims to be 60 to 80 percent sure, not sure how you calculate that lol, by walking down an aircraft carrier?!!!!!

 Smithy is the key, bearing in mind the description of the child.

[Brietta]

Well thats it he was never questioned but then cleared somehow.

I can't think why Amaral carried out the damage limitation exercise of admitting that Brueckner had been on police radar but they had failed to follow it through.

Damage limitation and deflection it most certainly was.  I wonder what he was actually covering up which was even more heinous than information about this example of police ineptitude he gave away so freely.  Bearing in mind that as a high ranking coordinator some of the buck for that has to attach to him.

[barrier]

In my opinion Brueckner's lawyers have the information as part of the process pertaining to the five sexual crimes the prosecutors hope to bring to trial.

In my opinion the files on Madeleine's case will not be handed over until those cases have been tried.

I thought EVERYONE knew that.  The media has been full of it.

Would that be the same media who told of a piece of fibre found that wasn't , or the same media who  the McCanns  successfully sued, the same media who Murat sued, the same media who reported of damaged shutters, the same media who had the three locals bang to rights in 2014, that media ?

Rowley:(now commissioner at the MET) There are odd headlines and odd stories in newspapers on a regular basis and most of those are nonsense.

[Brietta]

Smithy is the key, bearing in mind the description of the child.

One piece of evidence which would have confirmed part of the Smith story would have been the CCTV coverage of the apartments at Estrela da Luz.
A fortnight down the line ensured that no-one bothered to check that out because no-one heard of the Smiths until a fortnight after the event.

As it was the basics concerned in eliminating known paedophiles and burglars was neglected.

You know - if one of the possibilities of proving possibilities such as a burglary gone wrong is to investigate them.

Brueckner was not investigated.

The known burglars who may have been 'on duty' that night were not investigated until Scotland Yard followed through on the evidence available in 2007 but ignored until SY checked it and interviewed them in 2014.

Just not good enough when one measures the deliberate harm sceptics employ to indulge a case which was botched from the start to the finish of Amaral in September 2007, leaving an individual like Brueckner free to operate throughout sight unseen until he brought himself to German attention.