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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16575 on: July 29, 2022, 02:58:33 PM »
One piece of evidence which would have confirmed part of the Smith story would have been the CCTV coverage of the apartments at Estrela da Luz.
A fortnight down the line ensured that no-one bothered to check that out because no-one heard of the Smiths until a fortnight after the event.

As it was the basics concerned in eliminating known paedophiles and burglars was neglected.

You know - if one of the possibilities of proving possibilities such as a burglary gone wrong is to investigate them.

Brueckner was not investigated.

The known burglars who may have been 'on duty' that night were not investigated until Scotland Yard followed through on the evidence available in 2007 but ignored until SY checked it and interviewed them in 2014.

Just not good enough when one measures the deliberate harm sceptics employ to indulge a case which was botched from the start to the finish of Amaral in September 2007, leaving an individual like Brueckner free to operate throughout sight unseen until he brought himself to German attention.

Well it doesn't matter really does it, Wolters has caught him now & he'll be wrapping the case up just after he's finished with all the other cases against Brueckner, one can hope, if you're desperate.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16576 on: July 29, 2022, 03:01:50 PM »
Smithy is the key, bearing in mind the description of the child.

Yeah, she was sleeping deeply, or maybe she was already dead by then.  I mean Brueckner did murder her, so maybe he killed her while she was still in the apartment, then carried her down the road & chucked her in a bin, destroying the evidence.
I mean, that's possible isn't it, & Kate seemed to think so.
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16577 on: July 29, 2022, 03:11:06 PM »
Would that be the same media who told of a piece of fibre found that wasn't , or the same media who  the McCanns  successfully sued, the same media who Murat sued, the same media who reported of damaged shutters, the same media who had the three locals bang to rights in 2014, that media ?

Rowley:(now commissioner at the MET) There are odd headlines and odd stories in newspapers on a regular basis and most of those are nonsense.

If you had the slightest idea of what you are actually signifying with your posting history - I think you would desist forthwith because it really is not a good look by any standards.

It has totally missed you that no-one - absolutely no-one - is the slightest bit interested in sceptic slurring of the McCanns with the exception perhaps of fellow sceptics.

In 2019 the story broke about a German paedophile who was the prime suspect of criminal offences against Madeleine McCann.

In 2020 he was identified as being Christian Brueckner.

That is the story now.

Nothing at all to do with the horrific assumptions of sceptics which have been wrong and deliberately misleading since 2007.

Get used to the new reality of Brueckner.  Because it can only get worse for sceptics over the future months and years when Brueckner will be taking centre stage in proceedings.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16578 on: July 29, 2022, 03:27:10 PM »
If you had the slightest idea of what you are actually signifying with your posting history - I think you would desist forthwith because it really is not a good look by any standards.

It has totally missed you that no-one - absolutely no-one - is the slightest bit interested in sceptic slurring of the McCanns with the exception perhaps of fellow sceptics.

In 2019 the story broke about a German paedophile who was the prime suspect of criminal offences against Madeleine McCann.

In 2020 he was identified as being Christian Brueckner.

That is the story now.

Nothing at all to do with the horrific assumptions of sceptics which have been wrong and deliberately misleading since 2007.

Get used to the new reality of Brueckner.  Because it can only get worse for sceptics over the future months and years when Brueckner will be taking centre stage in proceedings.

Well, you can hope, can't you. But, I mean, there's nothing happening in the foreseeable future is there, so you'll just have to cling to the hope something happens after that really won't you, whenever that's supposed to be.
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16579 on: July 29, 2022, 04:41:22 PM »
Evidence which doesn't lead to a conviction is insufficient evidence and can thereafter be dismissed as lies/misinterpretations/wishful thinking in my experience. I've seen it in action for years.

There is a place for public discussion when assertions and opinions are posted on the public threads - and that place is in public.  If you get my meaning.

Your post was too cryptic for my understanding of it.

Which is why I have posted in response ~
Exactly what have you " ... seen it in action for years" in relation to Madeleine's case?

Brueckner didn't appear on the scene until Amaral 'outed' him prematurely in 2019.  As far as I know over the years there has not been another either with the profile or the back-up evidence to merit being made the prime suspect for all the forces of law and order involved in his investigation.

Do share with us the 'benefits' of your 'experience' - I am sure they must be riveting.
~ a post which you seem to be unwilling or unable to answer.

Allow me to simplify using the statement which since it was made by you must surely be understood by you and therefore worth a response where it was posted which is on the public threads.

You claim particular experiences.  It is not out with the bounds of expectation that you are required when asked to enumerate those 'experiences' to which you lay claim within the bounds of the discussion of Madeleine McCann's case.

You claim this 'experience' has been gained by your watch over a "period of years".  Again - you are the only person who can throw light on that since you are making the claim.  Not difficult to answer - or is it?  I think there is sufficient information regarding Brueckner available in the public domain, maybe you think differently.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16580 on: July 29, 2022, 04:57:44 PM »
Evidence which doesn't lead to a conviction is insufficient evidence and can thereafter be dismissed as lies/misinterpretations/wishful thinking in my experience. I've seen it in action for years.


If you think the opinion of 3 police forces can simply be dismissed then I think you are deluded.
It will be interesting to see the evidence that has convinced the German investigation 100% that CB murdered MM

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16581 on: July 30, 2022, 01:01:25 PM »

If you think the opinion of 3 police forces can simply be dismissed then I think you are deluded.
It will be interesting to see the evidence that has convinced the German investigation 100% that CB murdered MM

I reckon you might be waiting a while.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16582 on: July 30, 2022, 01:12:12 PM »

He fits the profile of a possible abductor well, doesn't he. (if you take the McCanns word for it that Maddie was actually abducted in the first place)

Lived & worked in & around Luz

Broke into apartments, robbed & raped.

Exposed himself in playgrounds & on beaches.

Molested children & filmed it.

Talked about the case.

Told a paedo he murdered Maddie & destroyed the evidence.

Great, one major flaw in all this is that Maddie would have been his one-off child abduction & murder.

There aren't a string of murders or missing kids that can be in anyway linked to him, that much is obvious.

So, he commits the perfect crime, enjoys it that much he can't stop bragging to his mates about this success, but then decides never to carry out any similar abductions & murders ever again, despite being really good at it.

Just run a kiosk, sell drugs & expose himself in playgrounds.

So why only the one?  Why didn't he carry on doing it, I mean he said he wanted to catch a little one & abuse it for days, didn't he?

So why didn't he?  He was quite capable, apparently.

Maybe because he simply didn't abduct Maddie in the first place, that's possible isn't it.
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Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16583 on: July 30, 2022, 04:44:10 PM »
He fits the profile of a possible abductor well, doesn't he. (if you take the McCanns word for it that Maddie was actually abducted in the first place)

Lived & worked in & around Luz

Broke into apartments, robbed & raped.

Exposed himself in playgrounds & on beaches.

Molested children & filmed it.

Talked about the case.

Told a paedo he murdered Maddie & destroyed the evidence.

Great, one major flaw in all this is that Maddie would have been his one-off child abduction & murder.

There aren't a string of murders or missing kids that can be in anyway linked to him, that much is obvious.

So, he commits the perfect crime, enjoys it that much he can't stop bragging to his mates about this success, but then decides never to carry out any similar abductions & murders ever again, despite being really good at it.

Just run a kiosk, sell drugs & expose himself in playgrounds.

So why only the one?  Why didn't he carry on doing it, I mean he said he wanted to catch a little one & abuse it for days, didn't he?

So why didn't he?  He was quite capable, apparently.

Maybe because he simply didn't abduct Maddie in the first place, that's possible isn't it.

Of course he fits the profile as the Germans were unlikely to have their  own profile before he was a suspect and they got involved, were they?
Or they relying on a second hand profile from somewhere else ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16584 on: July 30, 2022, 05:29:20 PM »

If you think the opinion of 3 police forces can simply be dismissed then I think you are deluded.
It will be interesting to see the evidence that has convinced the German investigation 100% that CB murdered MM

I don't think you know what 3 police forces think. Only one German prosecutor has shared his thoughts; mostly with journalists.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16585 on: July 30, 2022, 06:09:38 PM »
I don't think you know what 3 police forces think. Only one German prosecutor has shared his thoughts; mostly with journalists.
We know the Met think Madeleine was abducted by a stranger  and are working closely wirh the BKA and we know the PJ have made CB an arguido based on significant new evidence , we also know that none of these police forces considers the McCanns were involved in their child’s disappearance.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16586 on: July 30, 2022, 06:10:27 PM »
I don't think you know what 3 police forces think. Only one German prosecutor has shared his thoughts; mostly with journalists.
I think I do... He's the only arguido in the Portuguese investigation for starters

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16587 on: July 30, 2022, 06:22:05 PM »
I think I do... He's the only arguido in the Portuguese investigation for starters

Doesn't mean much really does it, if he isn't being charged anytime.

I mean, he's even failed to answer questions & doesn't have an alibi to refute all the concrete evidence.

They have him bang to rights, just aren't charging him anytime soon for some reason.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16588 on: July 30, 2022, 06:30:48 PM »
We know the Met think Madeleine was abducted by a stranger  and are working closely wirh the BKA and we know the PJ have made CB an arguido based on significant new evidence , we also know that none of these police forces considers the McCanns were involved in their child’s disappearance.

They only think that then?

Aren't they actually certain of as much on account of all the abduction evidence?

Maybe that's due to the abscence of evidence Maddie was abducted in the first place, apart from the McCanns say so.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16589 on: July 30, 2022, 07:09:26 PM »
I think I do... He's the only arguido in the Portuguese investigation for starters

Bild quoted Brueckner's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher saying: 'The step taken by the Portuguese authorities should not be overrated.

'Without knowing the Portuguese legal situation in detail, I assume that this measure is a procedural artifice to stop the statute of limitations threatening in a few days.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10743607/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-welcome-news-German-rapist-Christian-Brueckner-arguido-status.html
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