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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16920 on: October 28, 2022, 07:13:34 AM »
So you don’t believe Busching? What about Tatschi?
You need to learn the difference between “not taking everything as gospel” and “not believing”.  I have no idea whether either character is telling “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth” however I do know that their evidence helped secure a successful rape conviction as it was substantiated by DNA evidence of the accused.   So, there’s an example of nuance for you, now perhaps you can stop making stupid observations like “the faithful take every word as gospel”.  No we don’t.  I don’t take every word the McCanns or their friends have said as gospel, I just think that broadly speaking they are telling the truth.  Now, this is not an invitation for you to keep badgering me on the subject like you usually do, learn also to accept what I have said and move on.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16921 on: October 28, 2022, 07:16:09 AM »
Money or throwing their friends under passenger carrying vehicular transport to avoid trouble are two very pertinent ‘reasons’ Busching may have brought his ‘friend’ to the authorities attention. They have a great bearing on the case against Brueckner as it stands.
I wonder if that’s ever occurred to the German authorities….  *%87
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16922 on: October 28, 2022, 11:30:35 AM »
You need to learn the difference between “not taking everything as gospel” and “not believing”.  I have no idea whether either character is telling “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth” however I do know that their evidence helped secure a successful rape conviction as it was substantiated by DNA evidence of the accused.   So, there’s an example of nuance for you, now perhaps you can stop making stupid observations like “the faithful take every word as gospel”.  No we don’t.  I don’t take every word the McCanns or their friends have said as gospel, I just think that broadly speaking they are telling the truth.  Now, this is not an invitation for you to keep badgering me on the subject like you usually do, learn also to accept what I have said and move on.

Didn’t the tape allegedly found by the criminal cartel feature an entirely different woman from the one Brueckner was convicted of raping? Not that it could be proven either way as we only have the the sleazy reprobates word that the tape actually ever existed in the first place.

We must never forget the length that some authorities will go to to secure a conviction.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16923 on: October 28, 2022, 11:55:36 AM »
Didn’t the tape allegedly found by the criminal cartel feature an entirely different woman from the one Brueckner was convicted of raping? Not that it could be proven either way as we only have the the sleazy reprobates word that the tape actually ever existed in the first place.

We must never forget the length that some authorities will go to to secure a conviction.
Sure, but then you'd have to believe that the authorities planted DNA evidence in the raped woman's bed just to make the "sleazy reprobates" evidence stack up.  If that's what you want to believe then that's entirely your prerogative.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16924 on: October 28, 2022, 11:59:09 AM »
Didn’t the tape allegedly found by the criminal cartel feature an entirely different woman from the one Brueckner was convicted of raping? Not that it could be proven either way as we only have the the sleazy reprobates word that the tape actually ever existed in the first place.

We must never forget the length that some authorities will go to to secure a conviction.
Imagine incidentally if I were to suggest that the authorities went to the lengths of deliberately contaminating Apartment 5a and the hire car with cadaver odour just to try and secure a conviction, eh?  I wonder what you'd say to that....  *%87
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16925 on: October 28, 2022, 12:11:58 PM »
Sure, but then you'd have to believe that the authorities planted DNA evidence in the raped woman's bed just to make the "sleazy reprobates" evidence stack up.  If that's what you want to believe then that's entirely your prerogative.

How long was it between the rape and the German authorities receiving Brueckner’s hair? How closely was the chain of evidence adhered to? In what way was the hair stored?

All these questions and more would need to be answered before the value of the DNA can be considered.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16926 on: October 28, 2022, 12:12:25 PM »
Imagine incidentally if I were to suggest that the authorities went to the lengths of deliberately contaminating Apartment 5a and the hire car with cadaver odour just to try and secure a conviction, eh?  I wonder what you'd say to that....  *%87

You mean they didn't?  Although that didn't go well.

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16927 on: October 28, 2022, 12:15:52 PM »
Imagine incidentally if I were to suggest that the authorities went to the lengths of deliberately contaminating Apartment 5a and the hire car with cadaver odour just to try and secure a conviction, eh?  I wonder what you'd say to that....  *%87

Anything’s possible but are you saying that evidence has never planted evidence to secure a conviction?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16928 on: October 28, 2022, 12:18:18 PM »
How long was it between the rape and the German authorities receiving Brueckner’s hair? How closely was the chain of evidence adhered to? In what way was the hair stored?

All these questions and more would need to be answered before the value of the DNA can be considered.

The PJ must have nicked one of Brueckner's pubic hairs and then saved it, because it came from Portugal.  Or perhaps The PJ caught the cat.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16929 on: October 28, 2022, 12:23:08 PM »
Anything’s possible but are you saying that evidence has never planted evidence to secure a conviction?

Do you think that The BKA nicked one of Brueckner's pubic hairs?  Why not half a dozen?

Search his cell.  Bingo.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16930 on: October 28, 2022, 12:26:13 PM »
How long was it between the rape and the German authorities receiving Brueckner’s hair? How closely was the chain of evidence adhered to? In what way was the hair stored?

All these questions and more would need to be answered before the value of the DNA can be considered.
Oh.  So you're thinking none of this was considered and that CB was tried and convicted in a kangaroo court?  OK then.  Perhaps consult your mate McLean on how best to mount the campaign to free Bruckner on the basis of a possible miscarriage of justice?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16931 on: October 28, 2022, 12:28:51 PM »
Anything’s possible but are you saying that evidence has never planted evidence to secure a conviction?
Do you think I'm saying that?  Are you saying the German authorities were so determined to pin a rape that took place in Portugal on one of their own (a no-mark small time crook and paedo) that they sent undercover cops to Portugal plant evidence to incriminate him?  Does that seem likely to you?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16932 on: October 28, 2022, 04:00:46 PM »
Do you think that The BKA nicked one of Brueckner's pubic hairs?  Why not half a dozen?

Search his cell.  Bingo.

I would say the chain of evidence was problematic.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16933 on: October 28, 2022, 04:08:18 PM »
Oh.  So you're thinking none of this was considered and that CB was tried and convicted in a kangaroo court?  OK then.  Perhaps consult your mate McLean on how best to mount the campaign to free Bruckner on the basis of a possible miscarriage of justice?

The chain of evidence is problematic.

If there was enough evidence to convict in addition to the hair and Busching’s dubious tale about the video then it would have been a much stronger case. Was there more evidence?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16934 on: October 28, 2022, 04:13:13 PM »
Do you think I'm saying that?  Are you saying the German authorities were so determined to pin a rape that took place in Portugal on one of their own (a no-mark small time crook and paedo) that they sent undercover cops to Portugal plant evidence to incriminate him?  Does that seem likely to you?

No it doesn’t and that is not what I am saying.

The Portuguese police had the evidence, the crime took place in Portugal. Why didn’t the trial take place in Portugal?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?