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Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17115 on: January 31, 2023, 07:28:17 AM »
Sigh...back to Amaral again ... I often suspect you really do not read the links you provide and this is a case in point, as well as being Off Topic into the bargain.

More like cherry picking.  And hoping the rest of us won't read them.  Read The Links, Folks.

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17116 on: January 31, 2023, 10:36:17 AM »
Sigh...back to Amaral again ... I often suspect you really do not read the links you provide and this is a case in point, as well as being Off Topic into the bargain.

I thought sexual misconduct by those who are employed to detect it and bring the perps to justice was very relevant myself. It's not helpful if they're no better than those perps, is it?

"PC Sam Grigg, of the Metropolitan Police, was sacked on Monday for discreditable conduct.

He pleaded guilty to false imprisonment and actual bodily harm at Kingston Crown Court earlier this month and will be sentenced on 10 February.

A Metropolitan Police listing for the hearing read: “On 2 December 2022, whilst off duty, PC Grigg unlawfully imprisoned and detained a female against her will. He used tape to restrain her wrists, ankles and covered her mouth with tape. After leaving her restrained for a short period of time he cut her free using a knife, cutting her in the process.”"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/met-police-officers-crime-offences-dismiss-b2269024.html

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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17117 on: January 31, 2023, 10:55:00 AM »
I thought sexual misconduct by those who are employed to detect it and bring the perps to justice was very relevant myself. It's not helpful if they're no better than those perps, is it?

"PC Sam Grigg, of the Metropolitan Police, was sacked on Monday for discreditable conduct.

He pleaded guilty to false imprisonment and actual bodily harm at Kingston Crown Court earlier this month and will be sentenced on 10 February.

A Metropolitan Police listing for the hearing read: “On 2 December 2022, whilst off duty, PC Grigg unlawfully imprisoned and detained a female against her will. He used tape to restrain her wrists, ankles and covered her mouth with tape. After leaving her restrained for a short period of time he cut her free using a knife, cutting her in the process.”"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/met-police-officers-crime-offences-dismiss-b2269024.html

This is the Madeleine McCann board.

The topic of this thread is ~ "New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance."

Your post reflects that in what way?

My opinion - off topic posts such as this disrespect fellow members who are all expected to subscribe to forum protocols, which apparently you consider are not applicable to you.  You have clearly lost the plot again.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2023, 10:59:14 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17118 on: January 31, 2023, 11:22:19 AM »
I thought sexual misconduct by those who are employed to detect it and bring the perps to justice was very relevant myself. It's not helpful if they're no better than those perps, is it?

"PC Sam Grigg, of the Metropolitan Police, was sacked on Monday for discreditable conduct.

He pleaded guilty to false imprisonment and actual bodily harm at Kingston Crown Court earlier this month and will be sentenced on 10 February.

A Metropolitan Police listing for the hearing read: “On 2 December 2022, whilst off duty, PC Grigg unlawfully imprisoned and detained a female against her will. He used tape to restrain her wrists, ankles and covered her mouth with tape. After leaving her restrained for a short period of time he cut her free using a knife, cutting her in the process.”"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/met-police-officers-crime-offences-dismiss-b2269024.html
Do these cases negate and undo all the investigative policework previously and currently being carried out by UK police on unsolved crimes?  My son's school sacked two teachers over the course of his education for sexual crimes against children.  Does that mean he didn't receive a decent education from the overwhelming number of teachers who weren't paedophiles? 
« Last Edit: January 31, 2023, 11:36:01 AM by G-Unit »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17119 on: January 31, 2023, 11:29:50 AM »
This is the Madeleine McCann board.

The topic of this thread is ~ "New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance."

Your post reflects that in what way?

My opinion - off topic posts such as this disrespect fellow members who are all expected to subscribe to forum protocols, which apparently you consider are not applicable to you.  You have clearly lost the plot again.

It's a well known fact that we will never agree what is and isn't relevant or what is and isn't on topic.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #17120 on: January 31, 2023, 11:34:00 AM »
It's a well known fact that we will never agree what is and isn't relevant or what is and isn't on topic.
Met officer crimes are not remotely relevant to the German investigation into Christian Bruckner, that is a fact. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17121 on: January 31, 2023, 11:46:38 AM »
Met officer crimes are not remotely relevant to the German investigation into Christian Bruckner, that is a fact.

So he's not the Met's prime suspect now, and they're not investigating him?
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #17122 on: January 31, 2023, 11:57:31 AM »
It's a well known fact that we will never agree what is and isn't relevant or what is and isn't on topic.

In a way it is refreshing that there is so little up to date media tittle tattle about Christian Brueckner in either the German press or the English speaking press.

I think that is exactly as it should be bearing in mind that there are active criminal cases in the German justice system.  Concerning which Christian Brueckner has been indicted for some very serious crimes.

Neither what you think - or what I think - will ever have the slightest bearing on the real world criminality of Christian Brueckner whether alleged or already proven in the courts.

I think it behoves you to bear in mind your locus as a contributor to an internet forum on which the owner allows the representation of all views on a variety of subjects.
All the forum owner asks is for members to post with respect and within the very few hard and fast rules there are.  One of which is "posting on topic" and if as you profess you are having difficulty doing that, my opinion is that you have a serious problem.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17123 on: January 31, 2023, 12:25:53 PM »
So he's not the Met's prime suspect now, and they're not investigating him?
You tell me.  What have they said wrt to Christian Bruckner?  How have Met crimes impacted on the German investigation? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17124 on: January 31, 2023, 12:27:46 PM »
Do these cases negate and undo all the investigative policework previously and currently being carried out by UK police on unsolved crimes?  My son's school sacked two teachers over the course of his education for sexual crimes against children.  Does that mean he didn't receive a decent education from the overwhelming number of teachers who weren't paedophiles?
@ G-unit - So you can edit my post but you can't bring yourself to actually answer it.  LOL. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17125 on: January 31, 2023, 12:58:32 PM »
Met officer crimes are not remotely relevant to the German investigation into Christian Bruckner, that is a fact.

I know. What if these people are investigating him? With two of them every week appearing in court every week for similar types of crime as he has been convicted of?
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #17126 on: January 31, 2023, 01:11:49 PM »
@ G-unit - So you can edit my post but you can't bring yourself to actually answer it.  LOL.

I don't know the answers to your interminable questions. All I know is that placing one's faith in the excellence of SY is a gamble these days. So we're left relying on the Germans to charge CB and they seem no nearer to connecting him to Madeleine McCann's disappearance than they were when they started their investigations.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #17127 on: January 31, 2023, 01:48:07 PM »
I don't know the answers to your interminable questions. All I know is that placing one's faith in the excellence of SY is a gamble these days. So we're left relying on the Germans to charge CB and they seem no nearer to connecting him to Madeleine McCann's disappearance than they were when they started their investigations.
I’m not placing my faith in anything or relying on anyone for anything much, but if I had to put money on either the Germans and/or the Met to solve this case or a bunch of internet detectives without any professional expertise or without full access to the facts (and some of them might be rapists and paedos too for all we know) then my money would be on the former.  Where would you like to place your faith and reliance?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17128 on: January 31, 2023, 01:51:45 PM »

Best I don't mention Amaral threatening to abduct his ex girlfriend's daughter and to shoot her husband then.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17129 on: January 31, 2023, 02:04:03 PM »
Best I don't mention Amaral threatening to abduct his ex girlfriend's daughter and to shoot her husband then.

Quite right, as it seems unrelated to Brueckner.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future