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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17160 on: February 01, 2023, 11:25:15 AM »
Perhaps the media exaggerated over what was actually found.
Or perhaps the crimes of sexual assault and rape are considered more serious and the police wanted to charge him with those crimes to ensure he is put away for a far longer time. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17161 on: February 01, 2023, 11:31:37 AM »
Here's the original in English.

Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters Wolters said today: “We have written to the McCanns to tell them Madeleine is dead and explaining we just ­cannot say what the evidence is.

“We have concrete evidence that our suspect has killed Madeleine.

“British police have been informed but don’t have all the evidence we have. The results of our investigation have been shared but not every detail has been passed to Scotland Yard.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11871138/madeleine-mccann-dead-letter-kate-gerry/

Not that it really matters ~ but I did ask for the original, which I rather think would be in German.  Just a reminder on why I think this trivia is well worth being sorted out and why what was actually said and by whom is of relevance on McCann threads where so many inaccuracies and misunderstandings are perpetuated.

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12474.msg697647#msg697647
I don't know - and to be honest I really do not care - but there seems to be more than a co-incidence between our Spammer's fixation with "CONCRETE EVIDENCE" and the rest of the sceptic lexicon.

Maddie case: "They seem not yet to be very sure about concrete evidence"
SIC News

04.06.2020
Carlos Carmo, former coordinator of the Judicial Police, analyzes the new developments in the investigation.

The former inspector of the JUDICIARY considers that the British police work with a budget that allows to pay informants and that, in this way, "from time to time appear some suspects", but that there seems to be no certainty as to concrete evidence regarding the German man considered a formal suspect.
https://sicnoticias.pt/especiais/caso-maddie---10-anos/2020-06-03-Caso-Maddie-Parecem-nao-estar-ainda-bem-seguros-relativamente-a-provas-concretas

Video Transcript:
CC – We just recently had the anniversary marking the disappearance of Maddie McCann. Over the years, occasionally some suspects emerge, it shouldn’t be forgotten that the English police works with quite a high financial budget, what I mean by this is that it is possible to use informants, to pay to informants, to see if the police can gather criminal intelligence. Therefore, I would not be surprised that the case, this case of the German man, that is detained, in jail, is also a case stemming from intelligence collected by the BKA [German Police acronym for Bundeskriminalamt]. However, we do not know what the reliability of that information is; note that the communiqué of the German police is broad, but simultaneously also looks to grasp at something more, it speaks of vehicles, two vehicles, speaks of the stay of this individual in the area of Portimão. So, they do not seem to be very sure about concrete evidence.
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RP – Carlos do Carmo, thank you so much for coming to the night edition with your views about this situation. Have a very good night.

// Translation by J.M. for the Textusa sisters //

*****

Comment from the blog:

A huge thank you to Joana!

We would like to highlight the date of this interview: June 4. This was on the next day after this story broke out on the evening of June 3.


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Quite obviously Carlos do Carmo coined the phrase.

Your turn now ~ where was it said in it's original German.  I think you find and post the source or perhaps you should give consideration to limiting its use if you cannot.
I only made the above observation regarding "concrete" on the 10th January this year.  Today is 1st of February.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17162 on: February 01, 2023, 11:36:03 AM »
From the link you provided;

"The prime suspect will be charged with three separate sex crimes in February"
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/12/24/exclusive-explosive-fingerprint-clue-as-madeleine-mccann-suspect-faces-three-new-charges/

So three, not five, and not yet charged.

Are you really serious !!

Dear God in heaven I really do sometimes despair!!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17163 on: February 01, 2023, 11:41:15 AM »
Cherry Picking again.  Read the article.

Particularly the date of publication.

One thing certain sure is that I have never been so taken aback by a post.  And I really mean never.  Jaw dropping!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17164 on: February 01, 2023, 11:42:29 AM »
Are you really serious !!

Dear God in heaven I really do sometimes despair!!


Nothing new though.  This is what Gunit does.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2023, 12:12:05 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17165 on: February 01, 2023, 11:51:51 AM »
From the link you provided;

"The prime suspect will be charged with three separate sex crimes in February"
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/12/24/exclusive-explosive-fingerprint-clue-as-madeleine-mccann-suspect-faces-three-new-charges/

So three, not five, and not yet charged.
For information
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner charged with five new counts of rape and sexual abuse
BY ANNA NORYSKIEWICZ

OCTOBER 12, 2022 / 9:31 AM / CBS NEWS

Berlin – A German public prosecutor has announced new charges against Christian Brueckner, the man suspected of kidnapping and killing British toddler Madeleine McCann in 2007. The public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig, central Germany, said Tuesday that Brueckner would be put on trial on three counts of rape and two counts of child sexual abuse, all unrelated to the still-unsolved McCann case.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-charged-rape-child-sexual-abuse/
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17166 on: February 01, 2023, 12:50:21 PM »
For information
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner charged with five new counts of rape and sexual abuse
BY ANNA NORYSKIEWICZ

OCTOBER 12, 2022 / 9:31 AM / CBS NEWS

Berlin – A German public prosecutor has announced new charges against Christian Brueckner, the man suspected of kidnapping and killing British toddler Madeleine McCann in 2007. The public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig, central Germany, said Tuesday that Brueckner would be put on trial on three counts of rape and two counts of child sexual abuse, all unrelated to the still-unsolved McCann case.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-charged-rape-child-sexual-abuse/

So, once again, it's clear as mud. Is he to be charged in February, or was he charged before?
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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17167 on: February 01, 2023, 01:18:45 PM »
So, once again, it's clear as mud. Is he to be charged in February, or was he charged before?

Well its February now, only another 27 days to see how it pans out.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17168 on: February 01, 2023, 01:56:12 PM »
So, once again, it's clear as mud. Is he to be charged in February, or was he charged before?
Patience.  All will be revealed in the fullness of time.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17169 on: February 01, 2023, 05:07:51 PM »
So, once again, it's clear as mud. Is he to be charged in February, or was he charged before?

Serious question.

Are you winding me up here ~ or is this a serious statement?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17170 on: February 01, 2023, 05:59:49 PM »
Serious question.

Are you winding me up here ~ or is this a serious statement?

Olive Press says "will be charged" with three offenses, CBS says "has been charged"with five. You posted both links, I think, so which one are you going with?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-charged-rape-child-sexual-abuse/
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/12/24/exclusive-explosive-fingerprint-clue-as-madeleine-mccann-suspect-faces-three-new-charges/
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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17171 on: February 01, 2023, 07:03:26 PM »
Olive Press says "will be charged" with three offenses, CBS says "has been charged"with five. You posted both links, I think, so which one are you going with?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-charged-rape-child-sexual-abuse/
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/12/24/exclusive-explosive-fingerprint-clue-as-madeleine-mccann-suspect-faces-three-new-charges/


5 Charges, October last year, you'll need google translate.


https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news-inland/wegen-vergewaltigung-maddie-verdaechtiger-christian-brueckner-angeklagt-81577510.bild.html?t_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.websleuths.com%2F


Braunschweig – Now it's getting serious for the Maddie suspect! The public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig has brought charges against Christian Brückner (45).

The man who allegedly kidnapped and killed little Maddie McCann (then 3) in 2007 is now to be tried on three counts of rape and two counts of child sexual abuse.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17172 on: February 01, 2023, 07:20:30 PM »

5 Charges, October last year, you'll need google translate.


https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news-inland/wegen-vergewaltigung-maddie-verdaechtiger-christian-brueckner-angeklagt-81577510.bild.html?t_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.websleuths.com%2F


Braunschweig – Now it's getting serious for the Maddie suspect! The public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig has brought charges against Christian Brückner (45).

The man who allegedly kidnapped and killed little Maddie McCann (then 3) in 2007 is now to be tried on three counts of rape and two counts of child sexual abuse.


It seems to be at this stage;

The intermediate proceedings
After the public prosecutor’s office has filed the indictment, the so-called interim proceedings are opened. The court responsible for the main hearing then decides, under Section 199 (1) StPO, whether the main proceedings are to be opened or the proceedings are to be discontinued. The files are presented to the court and reviewed. In addition, the accused becomes a defendant when the indictment is filed (cf. Section 157 StPO). Further motions for evidence may be filed, and proof may be ordered until the decision on the opening of the main proceedings.
https://se-legal.de/criminal-defense-lawyer/criminal-procedure-law-in-germany/?lang=en#:~:text=After%20the%20public%20prosecutor's%20office,proceedings%20are%20to%20be%20discontinued.

I wonder if it's been decided which court will be used? Until that's decided the interim proceedings can't proceed.
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Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17173 on: February 01, 2023, 07:41:15 PM »
I feel that if jurisdiction had been decided it would have been reported somewhere, so I assume it is stlll outstanding.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #17174 on: February 01, 2023, 09:50:18 PM »
Olive Press says "will be charged" with three offenses, CBS says "has been charged"with five. You posted both links, I think, so which one are you going with?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-charged-rape-child-sexual-abuse/
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/12/24/exclusive-explosive-fingerprint-clue-as-madeleine-mccann-suspect-faces-three-new-charges/

My opinion - you appear to be trying to play mind games at the expense of any credibility you might have possessed.

Fine by me. 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....