New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The point I was making was that the source was not giving any inside knowledge, but telling him what was soon to be public knowledge.

Except the German police have never confirmed they have photos of Madeleine dead.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Fulscher?s source, presumably someone within the German police. Mmmm I wonder why the German police would leak to their prime suspect that they have evidence that they don?t have? That is a head scratcher.

Of course if Fulscher knows that it?s not true why would he keep it secret?

You?ve lost me.  Fulscher did not say to Stellander that the information was not true, how would he know one way or the other? 
PS: are you now backtracking on Stellander being a liar?

[Gildas]

Except the German police have never confirmed they have photos of Madeleine dead.

yes they have.

[Vertigo Swirl]

yes they have.

Please provide a cite.

[faithlilly]

You either didn?t read my post or you didn?t understand it.  Stellander thinks Madeleine died in an accident in the apartment.  That?s what you believe.  He thinks the parents covered it up.  You do too.  He thinks there is some conspiracy involving the Tapas group as do you.  OK, you disagree on when exactly it happened and how they disposed of the body but basically you are both in the same camp.  Me, I think all you Anti McCanns? claims fall apart under the most cursory examination.  I definitely don?t think I?m wrong but I do think you?ve all managed to convince yourselves that you are right and don?t want to hear anything which challenges your theories, which is why I find Stellander?s revelation about the photographs so surprising.

Surprising if true.

Do you remember the leaks from the PJ which turned out to be absolutely false?

[faithlilly]

You?ve lost me.  Fulscher did not say to Stellander that the information was not true, how would he know one way or the other? 
PS: are you now backtracking on Stellander being a liar?

Am I wrong in saying that some time ago you believed that Bruckner was not being arrested because Wolster?s didn?t want Bruckner to know what he had? How do the photos fit in with that theory?

And yes, unlike you, I?m consistent. Stellander is still a charlatan.

[Gildas]

Please provide a cite.

I do not have to prove anything to you. You initiated the conversation.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Surprising if true.

Do you remember the leaks from the PJ which turned out to be absolutely false?

I remember them leaking the direction of their investigation and casting shade on the McCanns at every available opportunity, but I?m surprised you now view these leaks as absolutely false.  When they leaked misinformation about the DNA evidence for example I think they just didn?t understand the results rather than ldeliberately repeating falsehoods, but perhaps you can remind me of anything else they leaked that turned out to be completely made up.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Am I wrong in saying that some time ago you believed that Bruckner was not being arrested because Wolster?s didn?t want Bruckner to know what he had? How do the photos fit in with that theory?

And yes, unlike you, I?m consistent. Stellander is still a charlatan.

I don?t think I ever said that and I certainly don?t believe Wolters is behind any leaks.  In what way am I inconsistent?  You?re inconsistent because at first you claimed Stellander lied about Fulscher?s photo revelation and now you?re blaming the German source for lying about the photographs.  Perhaps if Stellander is reading here he would like to join the conversation and reply to your  accusations of liar and charlatan.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I do not have to prove anything to you. You initiated the conversation.

I?m sure Faithlilly would be interested in having a cite for your claim as well.  The fact of the matter is - there is no cite because the Germans have never claimed they have photos of a dead Madeleine.  I find your insistence that they did just as baffling as Stellander reporting the same. 

[faithlilly]

I remember them leaking the direction of their investigation and casting shade on the McCanns at every available opportunity, but I?m surprised you now view these leaks as absolutely false.  When they leaked misinformation about the DNA evidence for example I think they just didn?t understand the results rather than ldeliberately repeating falsehoods, but perhaps you can remind me of anything else they leaked that turned out to be completely made up.

Absolutely, the Portuguese leaks were to ?cast shade? on the parent?s and their friends. Yet you think that the leak about the photos from the German police isn?t to ?cast shade? on Bruckner. Please explain those mental gymnastics?

[faithlilly]

I don?t think I ever said that and I certainly don?t believe Wolters is behind any leaks.  In what way am I inconsistent?  You?re inconsistent because at first you claimed Stellander lied about Fulscher?s photo revelation and now you?re blaming the German source for lying about the photographs.  Perhaps if Stellander is reading here he would like to join the conversation and reply to your  accusations of liar and charlatan.

Either Stellander lied about Fulscher telling him about the photos or Fulscher was lied to by his ?source? about the photos. It could be either. What I am sure of is if Wolter?s had that kind of evidence Bruckner would certainly have been arrested if not charged. That you think that the reason for that is that Wolter fears that the photos admissibility would be challenged by the defence because of the way the evidence was allegedly obtained while evidence from the tape, which no longer existed, and which was found in the very same way was admitted, even though the defence challenged that, is bonkers.

It tickles me that you think Stellander reads here.