So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌

[Robittybob1]

I agree. I'd like to know how long after the first shot, the second one was fired. I think that could tell us rather a lot!

The first bullet hit the jugular vein.  OK so it will bleed a lot but there is a fair chance it will stop bleeding once a decent clot forms.

[Holly Goodhead]

I agree. I'd like to know how long after the first shot, the second one was fired. I think that could tell us rather a lot!

The pathologists agreed at least a few seconds based on haemorrhaging and could have been up to a few minutes.

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The pathologists agreed at least a few seconds based on haemorrhaging and could have been up to a few minutes.

"Could" we note. Not "WOULD". It's their 'get out of jail free' card.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

So it goes inside the sound moderator but not onto the hands holding the gun.  Why?  It wasn't Sheila holding the gun when the moderator was attached.

"The experts who studied the moderator in the laboratory established that the blood inside and on the baffles was the exact pattern of how back spatter blows back."  When I read that in a statement I might believe it.

As you rightly say, Sheila had no back spatter on her hands, which means she couldn’t have possibly shot herself.

The perp, Jeremy Bamber wore gloves and was obviously covered in BS, which he showered off before changing and then disposed of his gloves miles away.

The blood inside the moderator was definitely consistent with back spatter pattern. It’s in the official notes — take a look and you’ll find them 🙂

[Holly Goodhead]

I think you’ll find there is reliable evidence that firing a rifle with a silencer attached reduces the sound significantly, hence why people buy them 🙂

The sound of firearm discharge with and without a silencer will sound completely different inside WHF as opposed to discharging outside.  Soft items absorb sound.

https://youtu.be/rn8[Name removed]Ul9imY

https://www.factmonster.com/dk/encyclopedia/science/acoustics

[ISpyWithMyEye]

The sound of firearm discharge with and without a silencer will sound completely different inside WHF as opposed to discharging outside.  Soft items absorb sound.

https://youtu.be/rn8[Name removed]Ul9imY

https://www.factmonster.com/dk/encyclopedia/science/acoustics

We know that.

What’s your point?

[Holly Goodhead]

We know that.

What’s your point?

My point is there's no reliable evidence of the difference in sound with and without silencer based on the shootings that took place INSIDE WHF.

Jurors were taken to the firing range at Fingringhoe to hear the rifle fired with and without the silencer which isn't comparable with the inside of WHF.

[Robittybob1]

My point is there's no reliable evidence of the difference in sound with and without silencer based on the shootings that took place INSIDE WHF.

Jurors were taken to the firing range at Fingringhoe to hear the rifle fired with and without the silencer which isn't comparable with the inside of WHF.

I can't see how if it worked outside it wouldn't work inside too.

[Holly Goodhead]

I can't see how if it worked outside it wouldn't work inside too.

The discharge of a firearm within the confines of a normal private dwelling complete with fixtures, fittings, furnishings: hard and soft will sound completely different compared with the sound of a firearm discharged outside in open space.

Acoustics! 

[Holly Goodhead]

The discharge of a firearm within the confines of a normal private dwelling complete with fixtures, fittings, furnishings: hard and soft will sound completely different compared with the sound of a firearm discharged outside in open space.

Acoustics!

The fact the trial involved such a ridiculous piece of 'evidence' shows what a complete farce it was!  Another fine mess created by Malcom Fletcher.

A more worthwhile exercise would have been to take jurors to WHF to see for themselves what the prosecution was alleging in respect of exiting a window and securing it from within. 

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The fact the trial involved such a ridiculous piece of 'evidence' shows what a complete farce it was!  Another fine mess created by Malcom Fletcher.

A more worthwhile exercise would have been to take jurors to WHF to see for themselves what the prosecution was alleging in respect of exiting a window and securing it from within.

I asked before but didn't get a definite answer,what was to stop JB exiting through a door,is there pictures of all doors secured from with in with a bolt? keys in lock's?

[Holly Goodhead]

I asked before but didn't get a definite answer,what was to stop JB exiting through a door,is there pictures of all doors secured from with in with a bolt? keys in lock's?

The police found all doors bolted from within and/or had the key in the lock.

[Robittybob1]

The police found all doors bolted from within and/or had the key in the lock.

Yet there are reports of a spare key hidden somewhere outside.  So it is possible someone uses the spare key and locks the door from the inside and is still inside the building or escaped via a window if there was one that would latch behind him.

[Caroline]

The police found all doors bolted from within and/or had the key in the lock.

The door they entered through just had the key in the mortice lock.

[Robittybob1]

The door they entered through just had the key in the mortice lock.

Would that have stopped another key being used from the outside?