The Bible Note - Not A Suicide Note!

[Caroline]

If anyone here is writing to Bamber, they should tell him that the suicide note theory is on a hiding to nowhere. The Star reported in January that the CT and him believe the note inside the bible is a suicide note and is from John chapter 31. It isn't. The note has been documented in CAL's book and is no suicide note.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/jeremy-bambers-sister-sheila-caffel-21235611#comments-section

John chapter 31- 34

31 When he was gone, Jesus said, “Now the Son of Man is glorified and God is glorified in him. 32 If God is glorified in him,[a] God will glorify the Son in himself, and will glorify him at once.

33 “My children, I will be with you only a little longer. You will look for me, and just as I told the Jews, so I tell you now: Where I am going, you cannot come.

34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

What the note actually said;
words: ‘Love one another. A determination always to act in the others’ best interest, whether we feel good or not, whether we like them or not. It is an act of will, commandment to obey. Be determined to be loving and kind to every person you meet whether you like them or not. Lord Jesus in Thy mercy, teach me to love for Thy name’s sake, help me to live and speak as a Christian, no matter what others may think.’

Lee, Carol Ann. The Murders at White House Farm: Jeremy Bamber and the killing of his family. The definitive investigation. (p. 408). Pan Macmillan. Kindle Edition.

This may mean that it wasn't disclosed but it is of no value and won't add anything to latest submissions.

[APRIL]

It so epitomizes June who did her best to live her life by this ethos. The problem is, it IS a commandment so there's no room for feeling. Those in the wider community would probably have seen her as generous and selfless. Her children may have seen her as cold and exacting.

[Caroline]

So very typical of June who did her best to live her life by this ethos. The problem is, it IS a commandment so there's no room for feeling. Those in the wider community would probably have seen her as generous and selfless. Her children may have seen her as cold and exacting.

The point is though April, Bamber and the CT think the note was a suicide note written by Sheila and that it is from John chapter 31. They obviously haven't seen the note and don't know that the contents are already in the public domain. In no way can that be passed off as a suicide note - so strike that off the list! 

[APRIL]

The point is though April, Bamber and the CT think the note was a suicide note written by Sheila and that it is from John chapter 31. They obviously haven't seen the note and don't know that the contents are already in the public domain. In no way can that be passed off as a suicide note - so strike that off the list! 

Wonder how many hours they spent looking for a coded suicide note, and why would a suicide note need to be covert when the act of suicide is overt?

[Caroline]

Wonder how many hours they spent looking for a coded suicide note, and why would a suicide note need to be covert when the act of suicide is overt?

This must be one of the documents that weren't disclosed and it probably wasn't disclosed because it had nothing to do with the murders. They will be sorely disappointed when they find out. Not sure why they don't know or maybe they do and are dragging it out?

[APRIL]

This must be one of the documents that weren't disclosed and it probably wasn't disclosed because it had nothing to do with the murders. They will be sorely disappointed when they find out. Not sure why they don't know or maybe they do and are dragging it out?

It make me wonder just who it is who's running this show. Just WHO is saying the above is a suicide note? Are they telling Jeremy to go for it because he's got nothing to lose, or is Jeremy trying his luck?

[Robittybob1]

Does this mean very few people have read CAL's book?

I take it that it is clearly written in full in the book.

"What the note actually said;
words: ‘Love one another. A determination always to act in the others’ best interest, whether we feel good or not, whether we like them or not. It is an act of will, commandment to obey. Be determined to be loving and kind to every person you meet whether you like them or not. Lord Jesus in Thy mercy, teach me to love for Thy name’s sake, help me to live and speak as a Christian, no matter what others may think.’

Lee, Carol Ann. The Murders at White House Farm: Jeremy Bamber and the killing of his family. The definitive investigation. (p. 408). Pan Macmillan. Kindle Edition."

With a note like that had June read it to Sheila, her schizophrenia could have turned that into a message that she had to do it.  Kill her kids and herself for the betterment of mankind. 

[steve_trousers]

It make me wonder just who it is who's running this show. Just WHO is saying the above is a suicide note? Are they telling Jeremy to go for it because he's got nothing to lose, or is Jeremy trying his luck?

It’s utter desperation from him and what’s left of his team.
To suggest a passage copied from the bible in June’s hand could somehow become a suicide note is pathetic. 2020 is turning out to be some kind of annus horribilis for him.

Ps, good work Caroline

[Robittybob1]

It’s utter desperation from him and what’s left of his team.
To suggest a passage copied from the bible in June’s hand could somehow become a suicide note is pathetic. 2020 is turning out to be some kind of annus horribilis for him.

Ps, good work Caroline

I think you might have failed to understand how a paranoid schizophrenic might respond if they read a note like that from her mother.

[Holly Goodhead]

If anyone here is writing to Bamber, they should tell him that the suicide note theory is on a hiding to nowhere. The Star reported in January that the CT and him believe the note inside the bible is a suicide note and is from John chapter 31. It isn't. The note has been documented in CAL's book and is no suicide note.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/jeremy-bambers-sister-sheila-caffel-21235611#comments-section

John chapter 31- 34

31 When he was gone, Jesus said, “Now the Son of Man is glorified and God is glorified in him. 32 If God is glorified in him,[a] God will glorify the Son in himself, and will glorify him at once.

33 “My children, I will be with you only a little longer. You will look for me, and just as I told the Jews, so I tell you now: Where I am going, you cannot come.

34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

What the note actually said;
words: ‘Love one another. A determination always to act in the others’ best interest, whether we feel good or not, whether we like them or not. It is an act of will, commandment to obey. Be determined to be loving and kind to every person you meet whether you like them or not. Lord Jesus in Thy mercy, teach me to love for Thy name’s sake, help me to live and speak as a Christian, no matter what others may think.’

Lee, Carol Ann. The Murders at White House Farm: Jeremy Bamber and the killing of his family. The definitive investigation. (p. 408). Pan Macmillan. Kindle Edition.

This may mean that it wasn't disclosed but it is of no value and won't add anything to latest submissions.

Unlikely, after the butterfly notelets.

[Caroline]

I think you might have failed to understand how a paranoid schizophrenic might respond if they read a note like that from her mother.

No, you have and you've missed the point.

[Robittybob1]

No, you have and you've missed the point.

Have you ever been a paranoid schizophrenic?   How would you know how a paranoid schizophrenic would respond to a note like that?

[Caroline]

Have you ever been a paranoid schizophrenic?   How would you know how a paranoid schizophrenic respond to a note like that?

Have you? This thread isn't about how Sheila would respond to the note!

[Robittybob1]

Have you? This thread isn't about how Sheila would respond to the note!

I know and accept that Sheila didn't write the note, as we have been told it was in June's handwriting.  But the Bible had Sheila's blood-stained fingerprints on it, so we can't say for sure that Sheila hadn't read the note sticking out of June's Bible.
Has anyone questioned whether June was suicidal herself?

That is why I feel how Sheila would respond to the note is a valid discussion.

[Caroline]

I know and accept that Sheila didn't write the note, as we have been told it was in June's handwriting.  But the Bible had Sheila's blood-stained fingerprints on it, so we can't say for sure that Sheila hadn't read the note sticking out of June's Bible.
Has anyone questioned whether June was suicidal herself?

That is why I feel how Sheila would respond to the note is a valid discussion.

Then make a thread about it this one isn't about Sheila reading the note.