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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #195 on: September 18, 2020, 10:20:35 AM »
There us a very obvious reason why the alerts cannot be the evidence he has of Maddies death
Surely he is not depending on the Portuguese investigation.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #196 on: September 18, 2020, 10:24:12 AM »
Surely he is not depending on the Portuguese investigation.

HCW says he has evidence of Maddies death which he refuses to share... The dog alerts are in the public domain and have, already been widely shared.  I don't believe  the general is, actually  being serious... He's that wide of the mark imo

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #197 on: September 18, 2020, 10:34:24 AM »
HCW says he has evidence of Maddies death which he refuses to share... The dog alerts are in the public domain and have, already been widely shared.  I don't believe  the general is, actually  being serious... He's that wide of the mark imo
Neither do I.  I'm going to resign as moderator if HCW is using the dog alerts as evidence.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #198 on: September 18, 2020, 10:40:36 AM »
Do you feel the, same about what amaral said Re the mccanns

Did he make any similar public pronouncements before they had even been interviewed as suspects?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #199 on: September 18, 2020, 10:46:52 AM »
Did he make any similar public pronouncements before they had even been interviewed as suspects?

He wrote a book accusing the parents of drugging their child which caused her to have an accident  and die... Cover up the death.. Lie to the police... Set up a fraudulent fund.. Is that ok

In view of what you have posted do you think that is an affront to the mccanns human rights
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #200 on: September 18, 2020, 10:50:53 AM »
He then changed his tune. He told 60 minutes;

We have very strong evidence that Madeleine McCann is dead and that our suspect killed her
8:52 at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXsXXxRek2Q&t=640s

In my opinion Wolters' statement above is in breach of Brueckner's human rights as he is suggesting that his suspect is guilty.

Informal and legally illegitimate presumptions of guilt may also arise from the attitudes or prejudices of those such as judges, lawyers or police officers who administer the system. Such presumptions may result in suspects who are innocent being brought before a court to face criminal charges, with a risk of improperly being found guilty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_guilt

Your post does support an assertion I have made.

I don't believe HCW, would have said this unless he has that evidence

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #201 on: September 18, 2020, 10:53:08 AM »
Neither do I.  I'm going to resign as moderator if HCW is using the dog alerts as evidence.

I think your position is safe then, Rob.  In my opinion there is absolutely no way any of that 'intelligence' could be misconstrued as evidence by professional investigators.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #202 on: September 18, 2020, 10:57:10 AM »
He wrote a book accusing the parents of drugging their child which caused her to have an accident  and die... Cover up the death.. Lie to the police... Set up a fraudulent fund.. Is that ok

So he didn't make any public pronouncements before they had even been interviewed then?

Most of what was in the book was in the released files and in his OPINION they were culpable.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #203 on: September 18, 2020, 11:01:23 AM »
So he didn't make any public pronouncements before they had even been interviewed then?

Most of what was in the book was in the released files and in his OPINION they were culpable.

You need to read your post again... It doesn't mention when the statements, are made.
Not all of what, was said was in the files.. It could be argued based on your post that the release if the filed breached the mccanns human rights. That's why I feel they have such a strong case, at the ECHR.

HCW has made, a, statement... If that statement is true I don't see any breach of human rights... And that's one of the reasons why I think HCW, has that evidence
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #204 on: September 18, 2020, 11:12:57 AM »
So he didn't make any public pronouncements before they had even been interviewed then?

Most of what was in the book was in the released files and in his OPINION they were culpable.

Last Tuesday, Alípio Ribeiro dismissed the inspector who directed the Maddie case for the constant leaks of information that the institution has been suffering throughout the process.

The last straw was the statement that Gonçalo Amaral later said he did not tell DN, in which he openly accused the British police of being manipulated by the McCanns.

The head of the PJ did not like it and did not take half measures: it only took a few hours for Alípio Ribeiro to dismiss Gonçalo Amaral from the service commission he exercised as head of the DIC of Portimão.

https://www.dn.pt/dossiers/sociedade/caso-maddie/noticias/braco-direito-de-director-da-pj-no-caso-maddie-978472.html


Amaral didn't require to make honest public statements when he had the likes of Cristovao and journalists such as Felgueiras to leak his many warped OPINIONS for him.
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"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #205 on: September 18, 2020, 11:55:27 AM »
HCW says he has evidence of Maddies death which he refuses to share... The dog alerts are in the public domain and have, already been widely shared.  I don't believe  the general is, actually  being serious... He's that wide of the mark imo

He refuses to share ........could be he refuses to share because he has nothing worthwhile to share.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #206 on: September 18, 2020, 11:57:57 AM »
He refuses to share ........could be he refuses to share because he has nothing worthwhile to share.

I think that's highly unlikely based on everything we know.. But we have to wait and see.  Based on what gunit said I think he something  highly significant

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #207 on: September 18, 2020, 12:02:58 PM »
You need to read your post again... It doesn't mention when the statements, are made.
Not all of what, was said was in the files.. It could be argued based on your post that the release if the filed breached the mccanns human rights. That's why I feel they have such a strong case, at the ECHR.

HCW has made, a, statement... If that statement is true I don't see any breach of human rights... And that's one of the reasons why I think HCW, has that evidence

True or not, evidence or not, guilt is decided in a court of law.

A prosecutor has more or less announced that his suspect is guilty. That breaches the suspect's human rights as it reduces his chances of a fair trial.

The Portuguese authorities released the case files to journalists, which is normal practice, it seems. They weren't responsible for releasing the files to the general public, that was done by a journalist. The journalist is not involved in any way whatsoever in the complaint to the ECHR.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #208 on: September 18, 2020, 12:25:33 PM »
True or not, evidence or not, guilt is decided in a court of law.

A prosecutor has more or less announced that his suspect is guilty. That breaches the suspect's human rights as it reduces his chances of a fair trial.

The Portuguese authorities released the case files to journalists, which is normal practice, it seems. They weren't responsible for releasing the files to the general public, that was done by a journalist. The journalist is not involved in any way whatsoever in the complaint to the ECHR.

Then amaral has breached the McCans HR by your argument.
Again the fact that HCW has said this means he must be sure of his facts... Perhaps he's done for precisely  that  reason.  All CB has to do know is sue HCW.  In doing that he may, well need to give evidence in court.. Perhaps this is what HCW, would like him to do



Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #209 on: September 18, 2020, 01:25:14 PM »
Then amaral has breached the McCans HR by your argument.
Again the fact that HCW has said this means he must be sure of his facts... Perhaps he's done for precisely  that  reason.  All CB has to do know is sue HCW.  In doing that he may, well need to give evidence in court.. Perhaps this is what HCW, would like him to do

Just a load of .....speculation on your part.
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