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Offline Anthro

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #435 on: September 22, 2020, 09:37:39 PM »
Not these days, Dave.

They are even seamlessly altering Google Earth.

I guess they have electronic aids in order to do this.
I agree, Sadie. Locations that used to have streetview on GE, no longer exist.

Offline sadie

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #436 on: September 22, 2020, 10:44:40 PM »
I agree, Sadie. Locations that used to have streetview on GE, no longer exist.

Glad that you have noticed it too Anthro.  Seems no one else has

I have seen street view images changed too and there are areas where there is a sudden break in the street view image.  It will just not go past the bit that is interesting, so you can't see that.  And then there are the misted out areas - very weird !   And the designated route where the camera refuses to follow, always veering the viewer off in another direction

I have noticed that quite a few of these places are Jewish Synagogues, and with the dangers in life to Jews, I can understand that they might want their places of worship/congregation hidden.    However this shows that it can be done anywhere on Google Earth.

Also I have seen birds eye images changed to do with my sleuthing in this case.   Sinister, but the plus side is that I feel it confirms my suspicions about a certain place when it has been eradicated, moved or changed.


It's amazing what they can do these days - and most of the electronic alterations are seamless even when enlarged.

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #437 on: September 23, 2020, 08:01:37 AM »
Does wolters have an eye witness to CB abducting maddie

Just verble it seems...someone saying he did.

Oh and a phone ping from the area he lived in.

Seems HCW is really scrapping the barrel now. with ex-cons people trafficker and drunks. being credible witnesses

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #438 on: September 23, 2020, 08:13:15 AM »
Just verble it seems...someone saying he did.

Oh and a phone ping from the area he lived in.

Seems HCW is really scrapping the barrel now. with ex-cons people trafficker and drunks. being credible witnesses


perhaps you have forgotten your post describing material evidence none of the above is material evidence so he must have something else

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #439 on: September 23, 2020, 08:15:24 AM »
Just verble it seems...someone saying he did.

Oh and a phone ping from the area he lived in.

Seems HCW is really scrapping the barrel now. with ex-cons people trafficker and drunks. being credible witnesses
One of those ex-cons said he watched a video of Bruckner raping an old woman.  It turns out that forensic evidence puts Bruckner at the scene of the rape.  What are the chances of the ex-con making up a video to put Bruckner in the frame only for his hair to be matched to one found in the victim’s bed?  Do you think he was being truthful about the video but lying about everything else or....what?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Erngath

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #440 on: September 23, 2020, 08:59:38 AM »
Just verble it seems...someone saying he did.

Oh and a phone ping from the area he lived in.

Seems HCW is really scrapping the barrel now. with ex-cons people trafficker and drunks. being credible witnesses

That's the type of people CB seems to hang about with.
Think he is at the bottom of the barrel with them too.

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #441 on: September 23, 2020, 09:02:45 AM »
German court opens new investigation against the man suspected in Madeleine McCann case
in News · 22-09-2020 17:00:00
The German authorities have opened a new investigation against the principle suspect in the disappearance, in 2007, in Portugal, of the British child Madeleine McCann, relating to the rape of a young Irish woman in 2004.

"I can confirm that we also investigated the suspected rape and a young Irish woman in 2004 in the Algarve (region where Madeleine McCann disappeared)", prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told AFP. The inquiry was opened in June, according to Wolters.

It has been revealed that victim filed a complaint after the facts 16 years ago, after seeing in the media in early June, photos of the main suspect, the German Christian B.

In addition to the Madeleine case, Christian B. is also linked to a sexual assault investigation involving a 10-year-old girl at the time of the facts, in the Algarve, in April 2007, a few weeks before the British girl's disappearance. The suspect lived at the time a few kilometres from where the McCann family was staying, in Praia da Luz.

The Madeleine McCann case gained new momentum in June, with the identification of Christian B, a 43 year old man. The lawyer of Christian B said that his client denies all the accusations related to Madeleine McCann.

https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/german-court-opens-new-investigation-against-the-man-suspected-in-madeleine-mccann-case/55849
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #442 on: September 23, 2020, 09:25:19 AM »
That's the type of people CB seems to hang about with.
Think he is at the bottom of the barrel with them too.

I think there is a bit of denial in evidence regarding the character and lifestyle of this man who I believe in the opinion of a previous lawyer who dropped him as a client is a psychopath.
Even his present lawyer who is pulling out all the stops in his defence admits that he would be happy to allow him to watch his dog but not his daughter if he had one.

Brueckner is a criminal and the allegations being made against him are by those who know him best who unsurprisingly are also criminals.  So derision of the quality and character of witnesses when measured against the quality and character of the prime suspect is a bit hollow.
I think it is very much a case of which criminal is to be believed and to do that there must be evidence in support of allegations.

The German prosecutor says he has that evidence and I very much think he has to be believed
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #443 on: September 23, 2020, 09:47:02 AM »
One of those ex-cons said he watched a video of Bruckner raping an old woman.  It turns out that forensic evidence puts Bruckner at the scene of the rape.  What are the chances of the ex-con making up a video to put Bruckner in the frame only for his hair to be matched to one found in the victim’s bed?  Do you think he was being truthful about the video but lying about everything else or....what?

One of those ex-cons said he watched a video of Bruckner raping an old woman.

IIRC there was no film/vidio in existence acording to FF..seems your making same mistake as otheres Vs.


Quote from CB lawyer,
“One of the mistakes people have made is saying there is a film of the rape of the pensioner that is not true,” he said.

“But from the German prosecutors I still have not received one single file in connection with this case.

“That is extremely unusual.

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #444 on: September 23, 2020, 09:51:26 AM »
Glad that you have noticed it too Anthro.  Seems no one else has

I have seen street view images changed too and there are areas where there is a sudden break in the street view image.  It will just not go past the bit that is interesting, so you can't see that.  And then there are the misted out areas - very weird !   And the designated route where the camera refuses to follow, always veering the viewer off in another direction

I have noticed that quite a few of these places are Jewish Synagogues, and with the dangers in life to Jews, I can understand that they might want their places of worship/congregation hidden.    However this shows that it can be done anywhere on Google Earth.

Also I have seen birds eye images changed to do with my sleuthing in this case.   Sinister, but the plus side is that I feel it confirms my suspicions about a certain place when it has been eradicated, moved or changed.


It's amazing what they can do these days - and most of the electronic alterations are seamless even when enlarged.

I think it may be something to do with privacy laws, Sadie.

The approach to the back entrance and garage of my house afforded a view of the back garden and back of some houses on both sides of the road.  The road used to be for access only as a service road, but in recent years many people have sold off a bit of their land and some luxury bungalows have been built which is why there is a street view I think.

The view of only one of the houses has been obscured which I thought was a bit of a mystery as it was clear on either side.  On thinking about it and knowing the neighbour they had good reason for not wanting anyone to see the back of their house but the street view of the front remains uninterrupted.

I didn't ask if they had requested privacy but I think they may well have.  But I'm sure it can be done and sometimes for quite mundane reasons.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #445 on: September 23, 2020, 09:52:51 AM »
One of those ex-cons said he watched a video of Bruckner raping an old woman.

IIRC there was no film/vidio in existence acording to FF..seems your making same mistake as otheres Vs.


Quote from CB lawyer,
“One of the mistakes people have made is saying there is a film of the rape of the pensioner that is not true,” he said.

“But from the German prosecutors I still have not received one single file in connection with this case.

“That is extremely unusual.

So you don't think there was a video?  You think CB was set up by one of his pals do you?  Someone who invented a video and planted one of his hairs in the woman's bed?  Is that what you think happened?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #446 on: September 23, 2020, 09:55:34 AM »
One of those ex-cons said he watched a video of Bruckner raping an old woman.

IIRC there was no film/vidio in existence acording to FF..seems your making same mistake as otheres Vs.


Quote from CB lawyer,
“One of the mistakes people have made is saying there is a film of the rape of the pensioner that is not true,” he said.

“But from the German prosecutors I still have not received one single file in connection with this case.

“That is extremely unusual.


The rape of the Irish woman was also filmed.  Her statement to that effect is in the public domain.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #447 on: September 23, 2020, 10:01:05 AM »
I think there is a bit of denial in evidence regarding the character and lifestyle of this man who I believe in the opinion of a previous lawyer who dropped him as a client is a psychopath.
Even his present lawyer who is pulling out all the stops in his defence admits that he would be happy to allow him to watch his dog but not his daughter if he had one.

Brueckner is a criminal and the allegations being made against him are by those who know him best who unsurprisingly are also criminals.  So derision of the quality and character of witnesses when measured against the quality and character of the prime suspect is a bit hollow.
I think it is very much a case of which criminal is to be believed and to do that there must be evidence in support of allegations.

The German prosecutor says he has that evidence and I very much think he has to be believed

They lie ...do things for money...so how on earth can you make them credible.

It is strange how one's standards drop when it suits an agenda it seems.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #448 on: September 23, 2020, 10:16:31 AM »
They lie ...do things for money...so how on earth can you make them credible.

It is strange how one's standards drop when it suits an agenda it seems.
Then would you disregard any evidence given to police if the person giving evidence has at one time had a criminal record?  Consider this.  The police would have questioned the ex-cons about the contents of the video.  They would have wanted details that matched with the details given by the victim.  How would they have been able to give matching credible evidence if no such video existed?  Unless you think that they were the actual rapists themselves and are just framing poor wee innnocent Bruckner, and turned up at the rape venue with one of his hairs in their pocket to plant?  What do you think?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #449 on: September 23, 2020, 10:23:20 AM »
The rape of the Irish woman was also filmed.  Her statement to that effect is in the public domain.

What I have said it seems there is no film....not that CB didn't rape her.


One of the mistakes people have made is saying there is a film of the rape of the pensioner that is not true,” he said.

“And the prosecution are using two very dubious witnesses to help their case.”



https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-prime-suspects-lawyer-22688679
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