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Offline Anthro

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #570 on: September 24, 2020, 09:26:03 PM »
Friend rat who grassed up CB could have been complicit in the activity he accuses CB of. OR he may have been the prep himself.

He withheld information for a long period of time which does not show him in a good light  IMO

Exactly what Jim Gamble, amongst others, inferred to re. alliances changing.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #571 on: September 24, 2020, 09:27:58 PM »
Exactly what Jim Gamble, amongst others, inferred to re. alliances changing.

Precisely.. Well done Jim Gamble

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #572 on: September 24, 2020, 09:29:06 PM »
I would say I know, exactly why Mrs Gaspar made that statement and why her husband disagreed...

So anyway the reason Mrs Gaspar went to the police and told them that was because...?
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #573 on: September 24, 2020, 09:32:11 PM »
Exactly what Jim Gamble, amongst others, inferred to re. alliances changing.

He only 'changed' when he wanted immunity for his own crimes he was caught up in. And how do we know he was not the prep and is pinning the blame on CB?

Jim Gamble isn't god -no need to hang onto his every word.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #574 on: September 24, 2020, 09:34:40 PM »
He only 'changed' when he wanted immunity for his own crimes he was caught up in. And how do we know he was not the prep and is pinning the blame on CB?

Jim Gamble isn't god -no need to hang onto his every word.

Anyone ... would, realise that if the German police, were happy to rely on informants, as, proof they could charge and convict CB now
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #575 on: September 24, 2020, 11:01:10 PM »

You do not know why the Gaspars made statements, the male did not disagree, he said he didn't notice anything.
Not quite.  He noticed the gesture and said in his statement
“I did not feel the gesture was referring to Madeleine”.
He also said he had never distrusted DP. 
It’s funny that Arul’s statement is nearly always overlooked or misremembered by those quick to draw reference to the Gaspar statements.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #576 on: September 24, 2020, 11:06:25 PM »
In any case I find it hard to believe that after 13 years and the revelation of a prime suspect for the abduction and murder of Madeleine McCann we are still even having a discussion about the Gaspar Statements.  I mean on the one hand you have two Doctors, still practicing, no criminal records, one of whom made a (possibly) lewd gesture, and on the other you have a burglar who carried out numerous crimes in and around PdL for many years, including crimes of child abuse and rape, yet some people think the lewd gesture is the more significant.  It’s completely nuts IMO.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #577 on: September 24, 2020, 11:24:47 PM »
In any case I find it hard to believe that after 13 years and the revelation of a prime suspect for the abduction and murder of Madeleine McCann we are still even having a discussion about the Gaspar Statements.  I mean on the one hand you have two Doctors, still practicing, no criminal records, one of whom made a (possibly) lewd gesture, and on the other you have a burglar who carried out numerous crimes in and around PdL for many years, including crimes of child abuse and rape, yet some people think the lewd gesture is the more significant.  It’s completely nuts IMO.

A suspect isn't a perpetrator. Are both McCanns practicing doctors?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #578 on: September 24, 2020, 11:37:29 PM »
A suspect isn't a perpetrator. Are both McCanns practicing doctors?
I didn’t use the word perpetrator so what point are you trying to make?  Nor was I referring to two doctors  called McCann.
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Offline Admin

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #579 on: September 25, 2020, 01:23:18 AM »
In any case I find it hard to believe that after 13 years and the revelation of a prime suspect for the abduction and murder of Madeleine McCann we are still even having a discussion about the Gaspar Statements.  I mean on the one hand you have two Doctors, still practicing, no criminal records, one of whom made a (possibly) lewd gesture, and on the other you have a burglar who carried out numerous crimes in and around PdL for many years, including crimes of child abuse and rape, yet some people think the lewd gesture is the more significant.  It’s completely nuts IMO.

Maybe we should consign historical facts to the dustbin and only concentrate on recent speculation?

Does having a medical degree enhance ones character above that of the common criminal?  I don't believe the victims of Dr Harold Shipman would agree.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #580 on: September 25, 2020, 07:15:27 AM »
Maybe we should consign historical facts to the dustbin and only concentrate on recent speculation?

Does having a medical degree enhance ones character above that of the common criminal?  I don't believe the victims of Dr Harold Shipman would agree.
Ah that old chestnut.  I take it you still view the Gaspar statement as highly significant then, despite the otherwise unblemished reputation of the “nipple twiddler”, whilst preferring not to mention at all the crimes of the current chief suspect?  Yes, that figures and amply demonstrates my point, thank you.
PS: in an emergency who would you turn to for help if the only choice was between DP or CB?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #581 on: September 25, 2020, 07:20:19 AM »
Maybe we should consign historical facts to the dustbin and only concentrate on recent speculation?

Does having a medical degree enhance ones character above that of the common criminal?  I don't believe the victims of Dr Harold Shipman would agree.

Based on that we, should not dismiss the informants, and yes... Might be better to focus on recent and more relevant developments

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #582 on: September 25, 2020, 08:10:12 AM »
Based on that we, should not dismiss the informants, and yes... Might be better to focus on recent and more relevant developments
Quite.  So if the argument is that the chosen profession and career of someone  is no indication of their character or likelihood of committing a deed, then it follows that just because someone is a people trafficker or career burglar it doesn’t mean they aren’t a reliable and honest witness. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #583 on: September 25, 2020, 08:59:05 AM »
Quite.  So if the argument is that the chosen profession and career of someone  is no indication of their character or likelihood of committing a deed, then it follows that just because someone is a people trafficker or career burglar it doesn’t mean they aren’t a reliable and honest witness.

Well, thats about right for you VS and D believe a convict, career criminal who would do anything for money.

Yet not the findings of the PJ officer career... police officer on the case..


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #584 on: September 25, 2020, 09:02:55 AM »
Well, thats about right for you VS and D believe a convict, career criminal who would do anything for money.

Yet not the findings of the PJ officer career... police officer on the case..

The one who couldn't understand  the evidence