Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[G-Unit]

Are you saying that sceptics take the McCanns and their friends at their words?

Difficult to do when they contradict each other like Jane and Gerry, or Gerry contradicts himself. Then it becomes 'unimportant' or a 'translator error' IMO.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Difficult to do when they contradict each other like Jane and Gerry, or Gerry contradicts himself. Then it becomes 'unimportant' or a 'translator error' IMO.

It is possible to take them at their word and to also make allowances for imperfect recall, or inaccurate statement recording and/or translation.  I know this hugely unreasonable behaviour but there we are.  Do you think “highlighting a tiny piece of evidence and blowing it up out of all proportion” is a good game to play?

[Brietta]

It is possible to take them at their word and to also make allowances for imperfect recall, or inaccurate statement recording and/or translation.  I know this hugely unreasonable behaviour but there we are.  Do you think “highlighting a tiny piece of evidence and blowing it up out of all proportion” is a good game to play?

I think it proves the inadvisability of allowing the untrained eye access to police files which can only be made sense of when viewed as a whole.

Cherry picking one of the component parts in isolation from the whole and exaggerating its significance is entirely meaningless.

It is all a jigsaw with no one piece being the answer until it is slotted into its place.

[Brietta]

I was paraphrasing of course but it would probably be quicker to list the posts of yours that don’t contain the sentiment detailed in my post.

You were not paraphrasing.

You fabricated a statement and attributed it to me within quotation marks in the full knowledge it was nothing but a falsehood made up in its entirety by you and never by me.

How untrustworthy is that.
Not only is it against forum rules it proves that absolutely nothing posted or alleged by you in future posts can be trusted.

[Angelo222]

Difficult to do when they contradict each other like Jane and Gerry, or Gerry contradicts himself. Then it becomes 'unimportant' or a 'translator error' IMO.

Their statements are full of contradictions which to any professional investigator can only be seen as suspicious.  The rogatory statements are full of hums and hahs and all sorts of delaying mechanisms. All very damning imo considering that the people beng interviewed were educated professionals including medical doctors.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Their statements are full of contradictions which to any professional investigator can only be seen as suspicious.  The rogatory statements are full of hums and hahs and all sorts of delaying mechanisms. All very damning imo considering that the people beng interviewed were educated professionals including medical doctors.

“we have carried out a very serious investigation and there is no indication whatsoever Madeleine McCann's parents are linked to her disappearance” - Hans Christian Wolters, German Prosecutor (a professional investigator).

[Mr Gray]

Their statements are full of contradictions which to any professional investigator can only be seen as suspicious.  The rogatory statements are full of hums and hahs and all sorts of delaying mechanisms. All very damning imo considering that the people beng interviewed were educated professionals including medical doctors.

Do you understand why there are uhms and ahs in the rogs but not in the PJ statements....

[Vertigo Swirl]

In a study of how people talk in English, the linguist Mark Liberman analyzed a massive database of spoken language and found that one in every sixty words people pronounce is either um or uh. Depending on how fast you talk, this means you are producing two to three of these ‘fillers’ per minute

https://qz.com/work/1175505/a-linguist-explains-why-its-okay-to-say-um-and-uh/

Perhaps a sceptic would now like to analyse the rogs by individual and see whether these statements buck the trend.  That should give them something to foorensically examine for a while.

[Mr Gray]

In a study of how people talk in English, the linguist Mark Liberman analyzed a massive database of spoken language and found that one in every sixty words people pronounce is either um or uh. Depending on how fast you talk, this means you are producing two to three of these ‘fillers’ per minute

https://qz.com/work/1175505/a-linguist-explains-why-its-okay-to-say-um-and-uh/

Perhaps a sceptic would now like to analyse the rogs by individual and see whether these statements buck the trend.  That should give them something to foorensically examine for a while.

The uhms and ahs are quite normal. The interview s have been transcribed verbatim. Anyone not realising they are not normal simply has no experience of transcribed verbatim statements

[Vertigo Swirl]

The uhms and ahs are quite normal. The interview s have been transcribed verbatim. Anyone not realising they are not normal simply has no experience of transcribed verbatim statements

I’m listening to Radio 4 right now and the interviewee is Nico Rosberg talking about his team mate Lewis Hamilton and a race he is doing through the Amazon and every other word was um or err.  Maybe he dunnit.

[Wonderfulspam]

“we have carried out a very serious investigation and there is no indication whatsoever Madeleine McCann's parents are linked to her disappearance” - Hans Christian Wolters, German Prosecutor (a professional investigator).

When did the investigation into the McCann begin?

When were they interviewed/questioned?

Where were the interviews held?

Did the McCanns travel to Germany or did the Germans interview them here?

Why the need for such secrecy?

[Brietta]

The uhms and ahs are quite normal. The interview s have been transcribed verbatim. Anyone not realising they are not normal simply has no experience of transcribed verbatim statements

Not only transcribed verbatim but recorded in audio and video.

Kate describes in her book the actual process involved in her Portuguese interviews.

• questions were put in Portuguese
• an interpreter relayed them to her in English
• answers were translated into Portuguese
• and typed up by the police officer as translated to him by the interpreter
• there was neither audio nor video recording of the laborious time consuming process

And members use the result in confirmation of their notion of so called 'inaccuracies' or 'inconsistences' in statements.

In my opinion it would have been impossible were there none using that process.  All it would take to introduce some would be for subsequent interviews to be interpreted by a different translator and transcribed by a different officer to introduce a poolside/carpark side ~ front door/back door misunderstood situation.

But it has all been said before many times and in many locations and it will definitely all be said again and then again in deference to Groundhog Day.

[kizzy]

“we have carried out a very serious investigation and there is no indication whatsoever Madeleine McCann's parents are linked to her disappearance” - Hans Christian Wolters, German Prosecutor (a professional investigator).

Why do you think that had to be said in the first place...IMO it has to be for legal reasons.

How will they have seriously investigated the mccs.

[Mr Gray]

Why do you think that had to be said in the first place...IMO it has to be for legal reasons.

How will they have seriously investigated the mccs.

because of the stupid portuguese...who could not understand the evidence

[kizzy]

Thats why i sqaid i know we cant trust the SUn...but..

If its  a portuguese source they may well know that a request has been made to come to portugal and to a certain extent why. what we also know is taht the portuguese dont know what evidence the Germans have....so we can take it with a pinch of salt when they claim they do. All we  are seeeing here is sour grapes from the PJ because they are totally embarrassed at being made to look stupid by the Germans.

Just think how they will feel if the Germas solve it

All we  are seeeing here is sour grapes from the PJ because they are totally embarrassed at being made to look stupid by the Germans.

Not as embarrassed as some ...when they don't.