Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[G-Unit]

Assuming the statements are accurate is speculation not fact. None of us know why the inconsistencies are there...to assume a reason is speculation....To assume they were recorded and read back accurately is speculation...you are as guilty of speculation as anyone

Why would anyone even think that inconsistencies in statements given to the police were the result of police/translator errors? In my opinion the only people who would do that would be those who didn't want to accept that there were inconsistencies.

[Brietta]

ofgs Where does he mention CB or his name.

He said a german scapegoat, yes but he didn't name who it was.

It seems Saunokonoko's following are right On Message or are you another who thinks the media weren't helped by the podcast made by Amaral and another little nudge from Amaral in his Spanish TV interview a few month later (Nov/Dec 2019 I believe) to work out and name the individual he was pointing to for all he was worth?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why would anyone even think that inconsistencies in statements given to the police were the result of police/translator errors? In my opinion the only people who would do that would be those who didn't want to accept that there were inconsistencies.

I accept that there are inconsistencies, in fact it's one of the consistencies of most police investigations is that there are inconsistencies in and between witness statements.  They are investigated by the professionals who make a judgement call about whether or not they are significant or relevant.  13 years later three police forces are engaged in an investigation into where on the Algarve CB may have disposed of Madeleine's remains.  You may find it hard to believe but they haven't held secret meetings to discuss where on the pavement Gerry was standing when JT alleges she saw him.

[Mr Gray]

Why would anyone even think that inconsistencies in statements given to the police were the result of police/translator errors? In my opinion the only people who would do that would be those who didn't want to accept that there were inconsistencies.

Colin Sutton for one...and as I recall the investigion under Rebelo. You really are totally wrong on this imo....and the belief that they are accurate bis only your opinion

[Mr Gray]

Why would anyone even think that inconsistencies in statements given to the police were the result of police/translator errors? In my opinion the only people who would do that would be those who didn't want to accept that there were inconsistencies.

Collin Sutton, "We’re talking about interviews given by the McCanns and friends through an interpreter, written down in Portuguese and then translated back into English so officers from Grange can read them. The room for error would be enormous.”

[G-Unit]

Collin Sutton, "We’re talking about interviews given by the McCanns and friends through an interpreter, written down in Portuguese and then translated back into English so officers from Grange can read them. The room for error would be enormous.”

He was recommending that officers from Grange should conduct their own interviews;

Former Met detective chief inspector Collin Sutton has recently called for fresh interviews be undertaken with all the key British witnesses involved in the Madeleine McCann case.

Collin Sutton, "We’re talking about interviews given by the McCanns and friends through an interpreter, written down in Portuguese and then translated back into English so officers from Grange can read them. The room for error would be enormous.”

Madeleine McCann’s parents and ‘Tapas Seven’ have NEVER been formally interviewed as witnesses by Brit cops – as police hunt ‘person of significance’. Met detectives have been relying on Portuguese transcripts of formal interviews with key witnesses, including Maddie's parents.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9079.msg443594#msg443594

[Brietta]

He was recommending that officers from Grange should conduct their own interviews;

Former Met detective chief inspector Collin Sutton has recently called for fresh interviews be undertaken with all the key British witnesses involved in the Madeleine McCann case.

Collin Sutton, "We’re talking about interviews given by the McCanns and friends through an interpreter, written down in Portuguese and then translated back into English so officers from Grange can read them. The room for error would be enormous.”

Madeleine McCann’s parents and ‘Tapas Seven’ have NEVER been formally interviewed as witnesses by Brit cops – as police hunt ‘person of significance’. Met detectives have been relying on Portuguese transcripts of formal interviews with key witnesses, including Maddie's parents.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9079.msg443594#msg443594

Sorry ... who conducted the Rogatory interviews?

[Mr Gray]

He was recommending that officers from Grange should conduct their own interviews;

Former Met detective chief inspector Collin Sutton has recently called for fresh interviews be undertaken with all the key British witnesses involved in the Madeleine McCann case.

Collin Sutton, "We’re talking about interviews given by the McCanns and friends through an interpreter, written down in Portuguese and then translated back into English so officers from Grange can read them. The room for error would be enormous.”

Madeleine McCann’s parents and ‘Tapas Seven’ have NEVER been formally interviewed as witnesses by Brit cops – as police hunt ‘person of significance’. Met detectives have been relying on Portuguese transcripts of formal interviews with key witnesses, including Maddie's parents.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9079.msg443594#msg443594

Why do you think he was reccomending Grange conduct their own interviews...becasue the original translations had a massive room for error....but you insist that the translations you have worked from are accurate...can you not see Sutton disagrees

[Wonderfulspam]

just to piss you off I expect.  When did your investigation into the McCanns begin?  When did you interview them?  Where did you hold the interviews?  Did you travel to Rothley?  Obviously you wouldn't have been able to draw any conclusions about their involvement without conducting a throrugh investigation, so do tell.

If anyone is being Kentish around here it's you.

[faithlilly]

You were not paraphrasing.

You fabricated a statement and attributed it to me within quotation marks in the full knowledge it was nothing but a falsehood made up in its entirety by you and never by me.

How untrustworthy is that.
Not only is it against forum rules it proves that absolutely nothing posted or alleged by you in future posts can be trusted.

I think we’ll let the reader decide who is untrustworthy.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If anyone is being Kentish around here it's you.

I am Kentish as it happens, and proud of it but in what way am I “being Kentish”?  What characteristics are you referring to?  Do explain, or are you trying to be funny?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think we’ll let the reader decide who is untrustworthy.

I’ve decided.  It’s definitely you.

[kizzy]

It seems Saunokonoko's following are right On Message or are you another who thinks the media weren't helped by the podcast made by Amaral and another little nudge from Amaral in his Spanish TV interview a few month later (Nov/Dec 2019 I believe) to work out and name the individual he was pointing to for all he was worth?

Bit OTT IMO

[Brietta]

Bit OTT IMO

I think you are right; Amaral's conduct was not only very OTT it was unprofessional (not that he is a professional now ~ if he ever was); but to go on and compound it by his television appearances to push misinformation takes it all into a different league.

Isn't there a law in Portugal about interfering in an active police investigation?  I would say promoting a photograph of what in reality was a short haired man as one with dreadlocks you have photoshopped in certainly amounts to interference if not downright deceit.

I don't know why he behaved like that but I am wondering.  Aren't you the least bit curious?

[G-Unit]

Why do you think he was reccomending Grange conduct their own interviews...becasue the original translations had a massive room for error....but you insist that the translations you have worked from are accurate...can you not see Sutton disagrees

In my opinion he wanted to explain why he thought OG should have carried out the first task necessary when a child disappears; elimination or implication of those closest to her. Asking the questions themselves and in English would have been necessary, in his opinion, to achieve that.

"I do though think that a point worthy of reinforcing is that a proper, conclusive and reasoned elimination or implication of Kate and Gerry McCann would have been in everyone's interest, most of all theirs.  That would have been my first objective had I been leading Operation Grange and so that is the biggest issue I have with how that investigation proceeded.  To eliminate or implicate those closest to the child in this type of case is not only the documented best investigative practice but is common sense.  Had Grange done this then everything would be a lot clearer. I have no idea why this was not done but I am satisfied on what has been said by the Met and what is available that it was not."
http://colinsutton.blogspot.com/