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Offline Eleanor

Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral - don't believe a word I say
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2013, 08:59:52 PM »

There was an article about him being seen leaving a Bar for the second time that day, and then being driven some 200 yards to the Police Station.

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral - don't believe a word I say
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2013, 09:01:54 PM »


come on don't be silly - no need for negative comments about his appearance

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral - don't believe a word I say
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2013, 09:03:13 PM »

There was an article about him being seen leaving a Bar for the second time that day, and then being driven some 200 yards to the Police Station.

pure lies and speculation - don't believe the papers

Offline gilet

Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral - don't believe a word I say
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2013, 09:07:47 PM »
I still think the role of Inspector Coordenador de Investigação Criminal is probably a bit more than teaboy or filing clerk.

From a careers page on a Portuguese education site.

http://www.educacao.te.pt/jovem/index.jsp?p=109&id=5316

Every day that passes increases the ability of the means used in crime, and crime in general. Consequently also grows the need for the existence of trained professionals to meet these new challenges. Nevertheless, demand is still greater than supply and good qualifications and fitness for the exercise of the function are prerequisites increasingly important for those wishing to pursue a career in the Judiciary Police inspector.

Career Criminal Investigation

When you finish the course (successfully), candidates qualify for the stage itself, which lasts for one year. After the probationary period (and having been deemed Fit for the function), the Inspector Trainee is named definitely Inspector.

Career Criminal Investigation, the Inspector may evolve through competition, to other categories of greater responsibility: Chief Inspector, Coordinator of Criminal Investigation; Superior Research Coordinator.

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral - don't believe a word I say
« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2013, 09:11:38 PM »
"is probably a bit more than teaboy or filing clerk."

did he get a pay rise?

Offline gilet

Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral - don't believe a word I say
« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2013, 09:14:47 PM »
The first statements I know of from Amaral are his angry responses immediately after he got himself thrown off the McCann case when he lashed out.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-485154/Madeleine-police-chief-sacked-attack-British-detectives.html

"Mr Amaral made his "angry and explosive" remarks to the Portuguese newspaper Diario de Noticias. He claimed: "The British police have only been working on that which the McCann couple want them to, and which is most convenient for them."

He said British police appeared to have forgotten that Mr and Mrs McCann remain suspects. He also repeated Portuguese claims that the couple were manipulating the inquiry.

"They (the English) have been investigating tip-offs and information created and worked upon by the McCanns," he added."



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cop-demoted-after-mccanns-outburst-510764


Cop demoted after McCanns outburst

3 Oct 2007 00:00

The bungling police chief running the Madeleine McCann probe was last night kicked off the case.
Gerry and Kate McCann (PA) Gerry and Kate McCann (PA)

Officials demoted boozy chief inspector Goncalo Amaral after he launched an astonishing public attack on parents Kate and Gerry and British detectives.

The 48-year-old accused the McCanns of manipulating the investigation and claimed police here are pandering to the family.

His outburst angered bosses who decided it was the final straw in a series of embarrassing blunders during the investigation to find missing four-year-old Madeleine.

A Policia Judiciaria spokesman said: "Goncalo Amaral has been removed from the DIC (Portugal's CID) in Portimao and all the cases it is dealing with.

"We cannot make any comment on the reasons for his dismissal. But he did not resign, he was removed."

The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "We are aware of what's happened and simply cannot comment.

"However Kate and Gerry have consistently said they are willing to co-operate with Portuguese authorities and will continue to do so, regardless of who is in charge of the hunt for Madeleine."

A source close to the family added: "Things like this are frankly just a distraction, what they want is for people to concentrate on the search for Madeleine.

"The most important thing is that the inquiry is led by someone who can do a professional and good job and help them find their daughter."

Amaral accused doctors Kate and Gerry, from Rothley, Leics, of distracting the investigation. And he said of Leicestershire detectives: "British police have only worked on what the McCanns want them to work on, and which is most convenient for them.

"They have only investigated tips and information developed and worked on for the McCanns, forgetting the couple are suspects in the death of their daughter."

But a source close to the couple, both 39, said: "It's wrong. Leicestershire police are not doing anything at Gerry and Kate's behest. They are there for liaison."

Amaral was number three in the investigation but in charge of running it on a day-to-day basis from Portimao.

He works as little as four and a half hours a day and takes boozy three-hour lunches despite a mountain of Madeleine leads to investigate.

The inspector also vented his anger that Leicestershire police were following a wild tip emailed to Prince Charles's website.

It suggested a disgruntled maid at the Ocean Club complex in Praia da Luz where Madeleine vanished from on May 3 may have kidnapped her.

Amaral, who will be moved to Faro, ranted: "The lead has no credibility. This story about kidnapping for revenge is another lead worked on by the McCanns.

"Everything said by employees, current or former, has already been investigated by the Policia Judiciaria."

But the McCann family source said: "The lead was passed by Clarence House to the Met Police and they took it seriously because it was from a real woman and she had left the Ocean Club in bad circumstances."

Amaral has probed just two child murders in his 26-year career.

He is under investigation for allegedly helping cover up a police beating to extract a confession from Leonor Cipriano, 36, the mother of a missing girl.

She is serving 16 years for the murder of her eight-year-old daughter Joana, even though the body has never been found and she has retracted her statement.




amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral - don't believe a word I say
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2013, 09:17:34 PM »
ya see - this important man and head honcho was never interviewed in relation to the case before he left the case.

I am sure that our Portuguese friends will point out my error in due course and provide links

Offline Carana

Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral - don't believe a word I say
« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2013, 07:15:09 PM »
Personally, I don't understand the purpose of personal remarks about him.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2013, 07:17:43 PM by Carana »

Offline Carana

Re: Hey - it's not my fault
« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2013, 07:25:37 PM »
Amaral was actually the face of The PJ in the beginning, although I am not entirely sure why I got this impression, but it was him that The Media were following.


The spokesman (a function which does not seem to exist - or at least didn't), was  Chief Inspector Olegário de Sousa.

As far as I'm aware, he was drafted in from elsewhere to help deal with the media.

Offline Carana

Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral
« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2013, 07:39:24 PM »
He was also apparently head of the regional Polícia Judiciária, not exactly an office boy.

Are you thinking of Encarnação (who died).

"...o diretor da PJ de Faro, Guilhermino  Encarnação..."

http://sicnoticias.sapo.pt/pais/2011/05/22/mccann-elogiam-reavaliacao-do-desaparecimento-de-madeleine-e-esperam-novos-dados

I didn't follow who took over his function. If he'd been ill for some time before, he may have had a deputy or a substitute, but I've no idea who that was.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Hey - it's not my fault
« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2013, 08:01:42 PM »
Amaral was actually the face of The PJ in the beginning, although I am not entirely sure why I got this impression, but it was him that The Media were following.


The spokesman (a function which does not seem to exist - or at least didn't), was  Chief Inspector Olegário de Sousa.

As far as I'm aware, he was drafted in from elsewhere to help deal with the media.
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The Press weren't following him backwards and forwards to the various Bars, or trying to get quotes out of him. 
And I don't think The PJ ever released an Official Statement, did they?  That all appears to have been done through the back door, and Sources Close To.

Offline gilet

Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral
« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2013, 07:11:10 AM »
He was also apparently head of the regional Polícia Judiciária, not exactly an office boy.

Are you thinking of Encarnação (who died).

"...o diretor da PJ de Faro, Guilhermino  Encarnação..."

http://sicnoticias.sapo.pt/pais/2011/05/22/mccann-elogiam-reavaliacao-do-desaparecimento-de-madeleine-e-esperam-novos-dados

I didn't follow who took over his function. If he'd been ill for some time before, he may have had a deputy or a substitute, but I've no idea who that was.

According to some UK papers Goncalo Amaral held the position of head of the regional Policia Judiciaria

Quote
Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa and Goncalo Amaral, the head of the regional Policia Judiciaria, joined two other men at a speciality fish restaurant called Carvi a few minutes' walk from police headquarters.

Times of 6 June 2007 now behind a paywall but reported here, http://newsoutlines.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/madeleine-officers-defend-their-regular.html


Also reported in the book "Tracing Technologies: Prisoners' Views in the Era of Csi"  By Helena Machado, Barbara Prainsack

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bfh7_jEfeBMC&pg=RA1-PT44&lpg=RA1-PT44&dq=head+of+the+regional+Pol%C3%ADcia+Judici%C3%A1ria+goncalo+amaral&source=bl&ots=3lIdqtUQt3&sig=WpUTCPPOsDtwMcCXB4GUL9uDU5U&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KK9jUeKnIuOm0QXFlYGwDA&ved=0CGcQ6AEwCQ


Whether it was an accurate description of his position, I really do not know.


Offline gilet

Re: Hey - it's not my fault
« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2013, 07:33:53 AM »
Amaral was actually the face of The PJ in the beginning, although I am not entirely sure why I got this impression, but it was him that The Media were following.


The spokesman (a function which does not seem to exist - or at least didn't), was  Chief Inspector Olegário de Sousa.

As far as I'm aware, he was drafted in from elsewhere to help deal with the media.

The Press weren't following him backwards and forwards to the various Bars, or trying to get quotes out of him. 
And I don't think The PJ ever released an Official Statement, did they?  That all appears to have been done through the back door, and Sources Close To.

I believe there were two people who either assumed or were given the role of spokesman.

Guilhermino da Encarnação gave an impromptu press conference on Saturday 5th May.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6632325.stm

after which Olegario da Sousa was appointed press spokesman for the PJ. He gave a small number of press conferences as well as an interview with the BBC I believe.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6667307.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6644615.stm

Offline Carana

Re: Hey - it's not my fault - amaral - don't believe a word I say
« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2013, 07:55:59 AM »
His bio doesn't say he was regional director.

Gonçalo Amaral

Gonçalo de Sousa Amaral nasceu a 2 de Outubro de 1959 na aldeia de Torredeita, perto de Viseu. Cursou engenharia no ISEL e no IST. Em 1992/1997 cursou, no período nocturno, a Faculdade de Direito de Lisboa, tendo-se licenciado em Ciências Jurídicas e Criminais. Ingressou na Administração Pública em 1973, com 14 anos. Em Novembro de 1981 iniciou o curso de formação de agentes da Polícia Judiciária, tendo tomado posse em 1982 como Agente. Em 1997/1998 frequentou o curso de Subinspectores da PJ, sendo o primeiro classificado entre 100 alunos. Em 2000/2001 cumpriu o curso de Coordenadores da PJ. Exerceu funções em Lisboa, no Algarve e nos Açores. Durante anos perseguiu, com eficácia, com todo o tipo criminalidade violenta e organizada: furtos, roubos, homicídios, tráfico de estupefacientes. Teve uma carreira profissional impoluta, amplamente reconhecida por colegas e superiores hierárquicos, bem como por magistrados judiciais e do Ministério Público, por funcionários judiciais e advogados, com quem teve o prazer de lidar durante muitos anos. Tem como máxima que «a justiça se realiza em silêncio ». Foi Coordenador Operacional das investigações do "caso Maddie", entre 3 de Maio e 2 de Outubro de 2007, tendo nessa ocasião sido afastado da investigação, num acto inédito na história da Polícia Judiciária. Aposentou-se em 1 Julho de 2008, ao fim de 27 anos de carreira policial, a fim de readquirir a plenitude da sua liberdade de expressão sobre o caso que investigou e de contribuir, na medida do possível, para a descoberta da verdade material e a realização da justiça. Considera-se um beirão por nascença, lisboeta por migração e algarvio por adopção. É casado em segundas núpcias e tem 3 filhas.

http://www.wook.pt/authors/detail/id/47834