Kate McCann's unanswered questions.

[sadie]

^^^^still untrue, still on the thread.

I agree with VS about Faiths words

Let's remove all untrue statements and have a nice transparently 'clean'  forum

[Robittybob1]

I agree with VS about Faiths words

Let's remove all untrue statements and have a nice transparently 'clean'  forum

And who is going to decide what is true?   It is too much for the moderators.  You need to put up arguments why something is true.

[The General]

And who is going to decide what is true?   It is too much for the moderators.  You need to put up arguments why something is true.

If it was possible to remove all untrue statements there'd be 17 posts left. And this would not be one of them.
But I'll decide if stuff is true or not. Just PM me the link and I'll take a look at it and adjudicate accordingly. My decision will be final, no appeals. The offer is open to all members, past or present.
I may even have a look at historical posts if I have time.

[G-Unit]

And who is going to decide what is true?   It is too much for the moderators.  You need to put up arguments why something is true.

I agree Rob. There are different opinions on this board and therefore different opinions about 'truth'.

[carlymichelle]

I agree Rob. There are different opinions on this board and therefore different opinions about 'truth'.

some   ( not me)  would love  to have these  forums censored wouldnt  they

[G-Unit]

some   ( not me)  would love  to have these  forums censored wouldnt  they

I suppose it's quite normal for people to want the Forum to reflect their opinions. I enjoy seeing all opinions expressed and discussed, so long as members treat each other with respect.

[Erngath]

I suppose it's quite normal for people to want the Forum to reflect their opinions. I enjoy seeing all opinions expressed and discussed, so long as members treat each other with respect.

There has been a distinct lack of respect shown to Davel and Sadie in some recent posts.
The forum is over moderated and censored.
My last post was censored by admin because I used the word abduction even though that is how Madeleine's disappearance is being treated by current police investigations.
Meanwhile snide, goading posts are allowed......
Enjoy your break Davel.

[Brietta]

I agree Rob. There are different opinions on this board and therefore different opinions about 'truth'.

Thanks to the forum owner this forum is unique in many ways.  It is one of the very few internet fora which allows me and others like me to have an opinion on a McCann board and a voice with which to openly express it.

I value that ethos as I value the ideal that everything posted should as accurate as possible and opinion not just a mantra but fact based.

[jassi]

There has been a distinct lack of respect shown to Davel and Sadie in some recent posts.
The forum is over moderated and censored.
My last post was censored by admin because I used the word abduction even though that is how Madeleine's disappearance is being treated by current police investigations.
Meanwhile snide, goading posts are allowed......
Enjoy your break Davel.

I find those 2 sentences contradictory.
Less censorship/moderation is likely to result in exactly what you are complaining about.
IMO

[kizzy]

We all know that the window and shutters could be opened from the inside

Heri with his video showed that so long as the catch on the window was not locked, both the shutter and window could be opened from outside too.  Thank you Heri.

I have always said that it would be impossible for an intruder to get in via the window, but hands up, having heard about CB's dexterity and scaling up the outside of the building to enter via windows upstairs - and having seen his long slim legs and body, I am wondering if he (only he) could have entered via the window?

But even if he were responsible for the physical abduction of Madeleine, I don't think he did it for himself.   The big money payout he talked about, + other evidence /pointers that I have found, convinces me that he was commissioned to take Madeleine for someone else

But why no fibres and why no fingerprints on the window and its frame?  Have we been told porkies?   Is someone protecting him?

Ok if he was the professional burgler like it sounds he was ...why would he go to all the trouble of climbing through a window.

Messing with the mechanics the noise of it going up and down he could be seen from the street in an open road.

When he could have gone in through the open patio door... and out by the front door.[nearest maddies bed]

It makes no sense what so ever using the window, nothing was found on that window apart from kmc prints.

[kizzy]

There has been a distinct lack of respect shown to Davel and Sadie in some recent posts.
The forum is over moderated and censored.
My last post was censored by admin because I used the word abduction even though that is how Madeleine's disappearance is being treated by current police investigations.
Meanwhile snide, goading posts are allowed......
Enjoy your break Davel.

That again seems only to be your opinion.

[The General]

Thanks to the forum owner this forum is unique in many ways.  It is one of the very few internet fora which allows me and others like me to have an opinion on a McCann board and a voice with which to openly express it.

I value that ethos as I value the ideal that everything posted should as accurate as possible and opinion not just a mantra but fact based.

That's a lovely sentiment but I don't see how this forum is '.....one of the very few internet fora which allows me and others like me to have an opinion.....', as that's what most fora do - that's the point of a forum. There's several other forii (new word made up just now) primarily discussing this case too.
So not unique in any way really.
And there's nothing wrong with unverified opinions, that's why they're called opinions; it's the viewpoint of the individual and, as humans, we are wrong most of the time. But try telling that to the opinion espouser (another made up word) for whom it's a firmly held belief.

[The General]

Ok if he was the professional burgler like it sounds he was ...why would he go to all the trouble of climbing through a window.

Messing with the mechanics the noise of it going up and down he could be seen from the street in an open road.

When he could have gone in through the open patio door... and out by the front door.[nearest maddies bed]

It makes no sense what so ever using the window, nothing was found on that window apart from kmc prints.

The only reason a skilled burglar would improvise ingress would be due to the lack of direct ingress. Contrary to popular belief they're not all idiots.
They try all doors first, then look for secreted keys, then consider ground floor entry by other means, then move on to physically breaking. Path of least resistance every single time.
Your smash and grab housebreakers, the smackheads, will check the coast is clear and throw a brick through your patio doors, because the fear of being caught is subsumed by the need for a hit - they literally don't care if they get caught at that point.

[Lace]

Ok if he was the professional burgler like it sounds he was ...why would he go to all the trouble of climbing through a window.

Messing with the mechanics the noise of it going up and down he could be seen from the street in an open road.

When he could have gone in through the open patio door... and out by the front door.[nearest maddies bed]

It makes no sense what so ever using the window, nothing was found on that window apart from kmc prints.

If he had been observing the McCann family for a few days,  IMO he had been.   Then he would have seen that the checking would have all been done using the patio doors.   So going in through the bedroom window, which he was used to doing would allow him not to meet anyone doing any checking,  he IMO could have left it open in order to have an escape rout back out if someone came into the bedroom.

[Lace]

About the questioning of Kate this is from her book -

Tell us about that night, they said.  Tell us everything that happened after the children went to bed.   I gave them every detail I could remember,  as I had before,  but this time they responded by just staring at me and shaking their heads. I was reeling with confusion,  disbelief and panic.  What the hell was going on?  Evidently not satisfied with my account, they pressed me.  Was there anything else I wanted to add?  Anything else unusual that had occurred that night?

Of course there wasn't.  If there had been I would have told them on the 3rd of May.  I'd recounted absolutely everything and anything - more than they wanted or needed to know,  probably, just in case some triviality I recalled might be significant.  How could they think I would  hold something back that might help my daughter.  Why were they asking me this? Why?

On and on it went.  They tried convince me I'd had a blackout - a loss of memory episode,  I think they called it. My denials answers and pleas fell on deaf ears.  This was their theory and they wanted to shoehorn me into it,  end of story.

So it seems Kate answered all the questions,  and it wasn't what they wanted to hear.