What is wrong about this YouTube summary -Meet the Suspects video?

[G-Unit]

The question remains when did Helge Busching and his friend steal the video camera and see Christian B's rape tapes?  Was it before or after Madeleine McCann went missing?

It was when Brueckner was in prison in Portugal for diesel theft, so before. IMO

[Mr Gray]

It was when Brueckner was in prison in Portugal for diesel theft, so before.

cite required...you cannot really modify other posters posts and not provide a cite yourself

no cite given as expected

[barrier]

your opinion...he was convicted partly on that evidence....fact

Is there a transcript of the trial and prosecution case so we can judge for ourselves, asking for a cite would be futile.

[Mr Gray]

Is there a transcript of the trial and prosecution case so we can judge for ourselves, asking for a cite would be futile.

No there isnt and thats why I see it as futile to claim CB was convicted only on the evidence of the hair.

[barrier]

No there isnt and thats why I see it as futile to claim CB was convicted only on the evidence of the hair.

So you know nothing then, thats another cleared up .

[Mr Gray]

So you know nothing then, thats another cleared up .

Its faith who is making claims not me. I know as a fact he was convicted...thats hardly nothing

[faithlilly]

So was that hair kept as evidence by the Portuguese police all that time?

Yep, that’s what we’ve been told.

[Brietta]

It is a fact that Moderators automatically approve their own Threads.  There is no choice about it.  So it isn't their fault.

I believe it would be better left to someone else.

I agree without criticism of all moderator led threads; some I think have been an asset encouraging discussion; some I have found to be abysmal.

Also there is the issue of moderators 'taking ownership'.  Members are outweighed (I think) when it comes to starting threads and these are the guys and gals who make the forum work and give it credibility ~ not us.

[Brietta]

No there isnt and thats why I see it as futile to claim CB was convicted only on the evidence of the hair.

In my opinion the provenance of the chain of evidence wasn't challenged if Brueckner suggested that his pubic hair could have been carried into the victim's bed by her cat which he stroked in passing her villa.

Which raises two questions for me

• how did he know she owned a cat
• how did he know it was that particular cat

Just doing his homework?

[faithlilly]

In my opinion the provenance of the chain of evidence wasn't challenged if Brueckner suggested that his pubic hair could have been carried into the victim's bed by her cat which he stroked in passing her villa.

Which raises two questions for me

• how did he know she owned a cat
• how did he know it was that particular cat

Just doing his homework?

Or did she actually own a cat?

[Eleanor]

Or did she actually own a cat?

You don't mean Brueckner was lying, do you?

[Robittybob1]

your opinion...he was convicted partly on that evidence....fact

IMO It wouldn't be a first that someone's conviction was partly based on the testimony of witnesses or even expert witnesses that were less than honest.

[Mr Gray]

To clarify:-
No police force saw the videos of any rapes carried out by CB.
The video Helge B saw portrayed the rape of an Italian-speaking older woman & a young girl tied to a post.
No video was seen by Helge B or Manfred S portraying the rape of the 72yr old victim DM in Luz, the crime for which CB was convicted in December 2019 in Germany.

hi misty...when you have time could you please supply a cite to support your claim

[Mr Gray]

IMO It wouldn't be a first that someone's conviction was partly based on the testimony of witnesses or even expert witnesses that were less than honest.

Before making any such judgements you would need  a lot more information...which we dont have. without that you are making an unfounded allegation against the German justice system

[Mr Gray]

IMO It wouldn't be a first that someone's conviction was partly based on the testimony of witnesses or even expert witnesses that were less than honest.

I think you need to do a lot more research...start with the Michael stone case. AFAIAA all police forces use informers...most who come from a criminal background...imo...although cites supporting this have already been posted