What is wrong about this YouTube summary -Meet the Suspects video?

[Robittybob1]

Did you happen to notice the word cleared rather than solved

"Cleared" but no one is charged in many cases.  So it becomes "cleared as far as the police are concerned", but the public would consider the case unresolved as no one is ever convicted.

So if a cadaver dog was involved in those cases did the dog help to solve the case or not?  The answer is lost in the paperwork IMO.

[Eleanor]

"Cleared" but no one is charged in many cases.  So it becomes "cleared as far as the police are concerned", but the public would consider the case unresolved as no one is ever convicted.

So if a cadaver dog was involved in those cases did the dog help to solve the case or not?  The answer is lost in the paperwork IMO.

In that case the dogs didn't help.

As you rightly pointed out, they aren't much use unless they find a body.

[Robittybob1]

In that case the dogs didn't help.

As you rightly pointed out, they aren't much use unless they find a body.

But Martin Grime as an advocate for the use of cadaver dogs would most likely want to count that as a positive outcome.  So we get the difference between 37 or 200 cases  "helped solve".

[Eleanor]

But Martin Grime as an advocate for the use of cadaver dogs would most likely want to count that as a positive outcome.  So we get the difference between 37 or 200 cases  "helped solve".

Martin Grime charges an awful lot of money for what he does.

He was paid £96,000 for his efforts on Jersey, but sadly didn't find anything useful at all.

[Robittybob1]

Martin Grime charges an awful lot of money for what he does.

He was paid £96,000 for his efforts on Jersey, but sadly didn't find anything useful at all.

He would have counted that as about 10 positive cases IMO based on the number of times Eddie barked.

[Eleanor]

He would have counted that as about 10 positive cases IMO based on the number of times Eddie barked.

That's the secret.  Get the dog to bark and everyone's a winner.  And the next thing you know you've got a Conspiracy on your hands.

[Mr Gray]

But Martin Grime as an advocate for the use of cadaver dogs would most likely want to count that as a positive outcome.  So we get the difference between 37 or 200 cases  "helped solve".

The dogs were never involved in 200 cases.. Only 37

[Robittybob1]

The dogs were never involved in 200 cases.. Only 37

I doubt that.  Cite please.

[Mr Gray]

I doubt that.  Cite please.

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11844.msg632150#msg632150

[G-Unit]

Oneday I will.  But from memory, we'd done that already and it was debatable as to whether the dogs used were suitable or capable, and whether their findings meant anything.  It is unresolvable unless they discover a body in the process IMO.

Casting aspersions on dog's capabilities is habitual for some. In my opinion it has more to do with a narrative they want to uphold than with the dog's actual suitabilities and capabilities. Tracker dogs use scent to track a live individual, not a body btw.

[Mr Gray]

Casting aspersions on dog's capabilities is habitual for some. In my opinion it has more to do with a narrative they want to uphold than with the dog's actual suitabilities and capabilities. Tracker dogs use scent to track a live individual, not a body btw.

Telling the truth about the dogs seems to annoy you.. It's obvious why

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8032.msg411622#msg411622

[Mr Gray]

Casting aspersions on dog's capabilities is habitual for some. In my opinion it has more to do with a narrative they want to uphold than with the dog's actual suitabilities and capabilities. Tracker dogs use scent to track a live individual, not a body btw.

Don't accuse me of casting aspersions when I am telling the truth supported by cites

A more important  point is, why do some posters want to promote lies Re the dogs

[Mr Gray]

I doubt that.  Cite please.

If you look at the cite I gave by John... You might notice the post underneath is from you.  Might be a good idea to try and remember important facts instead of asking fir cites continually

[Eleanor]

Telling the truth about the dogs seems to annoy you.. It's obvious why

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8032.msg411622#msg411622

Well, well.

[Robittybob1]

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11844.msg632150#msg632150

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11844.msg632150#msg632150
Your cite was Eleanor - I'll be damned!