Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others

[The General]

Being a legal fact doesn't make it a fact

Really? Maybe you should petition the judiciary to update their historical purview and statutes to align with your skewed outlook.

[The General]

Most likely.

That's the coroner's job, to determine which of the options is most applicable, by weighing which is most likely given the evidence. Once that pronouncement is made, then it becomes a legal fact, that's the primary function of the process, to legally establish cause of death.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Really? Maybe you should petition the judiciary to update their historical purview and statutes to align with your skewed outlook.

He's right though.  Finding the Birmingham 6 guilty of causing explosions in pubs doesn't make it a fact that they did so. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

That's the coroner's job, to determine which of the options is most applicable, by weighing which is most likely given the evidence. Once that pronouncement is made, then it becomes a legal fact, that's the primary function of the process, to legally establish cause of death.

I'm not an idiot, but thanks for the recap all the same.  I love being lectured to especially by you.

[Mr Gray]

That's the coroner's job, to determine which of the options is most applicable, by weighing which is most likely given the evidence. Once that pronouncement is made, then it becomes a legal fact, that's the primary function of the process, to legally establish cause of death.

Does her verdict make it a legal fact worldwide or only in Malaysia

[The General]

I'm not an idiot, but thanks for the recap all the same.  I love being lectured to especially by you.

Well you did ask:

So legally speaking what factually happened to Nora Quoirin?

You're welcome. Glad to be able to educate the uninformed.

[Eleanor]

Well you did ask:

You're welcome. Glad to be able to educate the uninformed.

From someone who doesn't even know the gender of the person delivering the verdict.

[The General]

Does her verdict make it a legal fact worldwide or only in Malaysia

A Malaysian Coroner? So legal fact in Malaysia.
I believe the parents were hoping for an open verdict, which I'm sure they would have accepted as legal fact.

By the way, be in no doubt dudes, if the coroner would have stated a verdict of unlawful killing', then that's a fact too. I don't care.

[The General]

From someone who doesn't even know the gender of the person delivering the verdict.

Always happy to dispense free, accurate legal advice. Bless you.

[Eleanor]

Always happy to dispense free, accurate legal advice. Bless you.

Careless.  In My Opinion.

[Wonderfulspam]

From someone who doesn't even know the gender of the person delivering the verdict.

Well yes, the gender of the coroner is particularly important, as was amply demonstrated in the case of.....um....errr....

Do we know if she was a lesbian?

That could change our whole perspective on the events.

[The General]

Careless.  In My Opinion.

You're right, I couldn't.

[Eleanor]

You're right, I couldn't.

Not very good with English either.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well you did ask:

You're welcome. Glad to be able to educate the uninformed.

Your lecture was not in response to that question, but still, thank you.

[The General]

Your lecture was not in response to that question, but still, thank you.

It was in response to subsequent discussion.
And no problem, at least now you know the difference.