I'm getting reports that Madeleine is alive.

[Robittybob1]

your posts dont show  a particularly good grasp of the facts

In your humble opinion.

[The General]

Davel talks about evidence and "concrete evidence"  and hates me using the word proof.

In my opinion there is no 'proof'. Proof is a fact that demonstrates something to be real or true.
'Evidence is information that might lead one to believe something to be real or true. Proof is final and conclusive. Evidence is tentative'.
HCW has 'evidence'. I'm re-classifying it as Grout Evidence. Or Roy Walker evidence - it's good, but it's not right.
He's got something, the little Teutonic scamp, there's no question. But he still hasn't got enough.

[Eleanor]

wrong...we can all give our opinion on what concrete evidence is....but we cant know exactly what wolters means.

Of course we can't.  That's why I am waiting.

The Germans do have a different mindset to The British.  But this doesn't make  the opinions of any of us right or wrong.

And as far as I can see, everything is now Off Topic as these are not the reasons for why this Thread was started.  Was it not to do with some weirdo on Face Book.  What happened to that?

[jassi]

In my opinion there is no 'proof'. Proof is a fact that demonstrates something to be real or true.
'Evidence is information that might lead one to believe something to be real or true. Proof is final and conclusive. Evidence is tentative'.
HCW has 'evidence'. I'm re-classifying it as Grout Evidence. Or Roy Walker evidence - it's good, but it's not right.
He's got something, the little Teutonic scamp, there's no question. But he still hasn't got enough.

Evidence can also be false.

[Mr Gray]

In your humble opinion.

its  a fact...you cant remember deleteing a post an hour  ago...not sure what the problem is.
 Wolters has never used the word proof...best stick to fascts not fantasy...thers enough of that on this thraed

[sadie]

Kate's uncle, Brian Kennedy, on 17th May;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4jsLkwa7cc

I always thought that whilst Brian Kennedy had the same surname as Kates Mum that there was no relationship.  That he was just a very rich man (via double glazing) who wanted to help, like Eddie Stobbard did.   Have I got that wrong?

[Eleanor]

Davel talks about evidence and "concrete evidence"  and hates me using the word proof.

Wolters has never said he has proof, so why suggest that he has?

[Mr Gray]

Of course we can't.  That's why I am waiting.

The Germans do have a different mindset to The British.  But this doesn't make  the opinions of any of us right or wrong.

And as far as I can see, everything is now Off Topic as these are not the reasons for why this Thread was started.  Was it not to do with some weirdo on Face Book.  What happened to that?

Its the correct thing to do..wait and see what wolters has...but some dont want to wait...they want to call him a liar and  a fool...idiotic

[The General]

Evidence can also be false.

Indeed. Evidence can be anything gathered during the investigation, 99% of which may be discarded.
Concrete evidence is an oxymoron, but we have to give HCW the benefit of the doubt, given the language barrier.

[Eleanor]

Do we finally agree on a point?
Same here I hate liars too.

Some people can't tell the difference between Lies and Suggestions.

[Eleanor]

In your humble opinion.

Davel, like me, doesn't have Humble Opinions.

[Robittybob1]

In my opinion there is no 'proof'. Proof is a fact that demonstrates something to be real or true.
'Evidence is information that might lead one to believe something to be real or true. Proof is final and conclusive. Evidence is tentative'.
HCW has 'evidence'. I'm re-classifying it as Grout Evidence. Or Roy Walker evidence - it's good, but it's not right.
He's got something, the little Teutonic scamp, there's no question. But he still hasn't got enough.

But I saw a quote which suggested "Madeleine could still be alive".  So he can't have proof she's dead, and how does he cope with evidence that she is dead, and still say she could be alive?

[Eleanor]

I always thought that whilst Brian Kennedy had the same surname as Kates Mum that there was no relationship.  That he was just a very rich man (via double glazing) who wanted to help, like Eddie Stobbard did.   Have I got that wrong?

There are two Brian Kennedys Sadie.

[Robittybob1]

Davel, like me, doesn't have Humble Opinions.

The point I was making was there is a difference between opinions and facts.

[Mr Gray]

But I saw a quote which suggested "Madeleine could still be alive".  So he can't have proof she's dead, and how does he cope with evidence that she is dead, and still say she could be alive?

ive expalined alll this but it seems youve forgotten