What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?

[Mr Gray]

You are basing it on memory but I know I would never say that. 
That wasn't an insult.   My neighbour has that condition.  It is something we have to be aware of.   I never said what Davel claims, and I know I would never say that.  So I'm wondering why he won't accept that.

Because as I recall you did.. One of us is wrong.. Who removed the post... Perhaps whoever did could let us know

[Robittybob1]

Because as I recall you did.. One of us is wrong.. Who removed the post... Perhaps whoever did could let us know

I haven't checked if it really is missing.   There have been no reported posts on this topic, which is surprising, so did someone delete the post without reporting it?  That is also possible.

[Eleanor]

There is No Record of this Comment being removed.

[Robittybob1]

There is No Record of this Comment being removed.

So you'd agree that Davel appears to be incorrect in saying I posted that comment in the first place, is that correct?

[Eleanor]

So you'd agree that Davel appears to be incorrect in saying I posted that comment in the first place, is that correct?

No, it isn't correct.  You could have removed the Comment yourself.

When a Poster Deletes their own Comments these Deletions are not recorded.  Although I am not saying that you did this.

[Robittybob1]

No, it isn't correct.  You could have removed the Comment yourself.

When a Poster Deletes their own Comments these Deletions are not recorded.  Although I am not saying that you did this.

That definitely didn't happen either.  Strange that his recollection doesn't match the facts so far.

[Eleanor]

That definitely didn't happen either.  Strange that his recollection doesn't match the facts so far.

Have you checked your Post Record which is available on your Profile?

You can check Davel's as well on his profile.

[Robittybob1]

Have you checked your Post Record which is available on your Profile?

You can check Davel's as well on his profile.

I could but that takes time.  I often review a whole thread like this to make sure every person has been replied to.  I might attempt to do that now it has eased off.

[Robittybob1]

Was it this post you are thinking of?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11904.msg640315#msg640315

"Quote from: Davel on Today at 11:18:10 AM
Its still libelous to say  a public figure is lying"

Rob:
"Can you prove that to the forum, please?    Case law or an example, please?"

I not saying you are wrong, I just wanted proof of what you claim.

[Robittybob1]

This is where I  raise the issue of public or private roles.  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11904.msg640286;topicseen#msg640286

"How?  He is a public figure and it is more difficult to libel a public figure."

[Vertigo Swirl]

Lets look at it another way. The McCanns said the shutters and window were open in their children's bedroom at 10pm on 3rd May 2007.

I can say that in my opinion it's possible that they were not open, as there was no corroberation by any of the witnesses present at the time. I cannot say it's a fact that they weren't open, because that's an accusation that they lied and I can't prove it so it's libellous.

It’s not a fact to say there was no corroboration about the window being open, an independent witness claimed it was open and you are choosing to disregard her statement to fit your opinion.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’m still none the wiser about what is and is not allowed or punishable on this forum after today’s discussion.  Anyone else? 

[G-Unit]

It’s not a fact to say there was no corroboration about the window being open, an independent witness claimed it was open and you are choosing to disregard her statement to fit your opinion.

I was making a point about posting opinion as fact. Perhaps you might like to pay attention to that point rather than deflecting from it by discussing how I presented my thoughts?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I was making a point about posting opinion as fact. Perhaps you might like to pay attention to that point rather than deflecting from it by discussing how I presented my thoughts?

You posted opinion as fact, can you really not see that?  Your words
“ there was no corroberation by any of the witnesses present at the time.”
An incorrect statement of fact.

[faithlilly]

Lets look at it another way. The McCanns said the shutters and window were open in their children's bedroom at 10pm on 3rd May 2007.

I can say that in my opinion it's possible that they were not open, as there was no corroberation by any of the witnesses present at the time. I cannot say it's a fact that they weren't open, because that's an accusation that they lied and I can't prove it so it's libellous.

Of course some cite Cat Baker as an independent witness to the window being open but she didn’t see the window until after Kate raised the alarm. A witness’s testimony would only be useful if they’d gone with Kate to do the check and saw the window open at that time.