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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #240 on: February 14, 2021, 11:20:31 AM »
Only an idiot thinks writing books is a means of cashing in imo. It's by no means guaranteed.

I think that's quite an idiotic post. The very fact a book is accepted by a publisher is a virtual guarantee

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #241 on: February 14, 2021, 11:21:15 AM »
Only an idiot thinks writing books is a means of cashing in imo. It's by no means guaranteed.
You seem to be calling me an idiot which is nice.
When you are the controversial and internationally (in)famous cop on the most famous missing person case in history you would have to be completely blind to the fact that the book you are contemplating writing about the case is likely to attract worldwide attention and therefore lots of lovely money.   Only an idiot would be unable to understand this.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #242 on: February 14, 2021, 11:31:56 AM »
It’s rather interesting that the anger generated by Amaral’s book(s) is directed towards perceived final gain and damage to the parent’s reputation and not towards the alleged damage it did to the search.

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #243 on: February 14, 2021, 11:33:09 AM »
Did Summers and Swann write their book not knowing in advance whether they would be any interest in it?  Were they motivated purely out of a desire to write about the case and nothing more?  What do sceptics think?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #244 on: February 14, 2021, 11:34:06 AM »
It’s rather interesting that the anger generated by Amaral’s book(s) is directed towards perceived final gain and damage to the parent’s reputation and not towards the alleged damage it did to the search.
Wrong.  The only reason we’re discussing this at all is because G-Unit claims it is libellous to suggest Amaral resigned to cash in on the McCann case.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #245 on: February 14, 2021, 11:36:23 AM »
Did Summers and Swann write their book not knowing in advance whether they would be any interest in it?  Were they motivated purely out of a desire to write about the case and nothing more?  What do sceptics think?

Filthy lucre.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #246 on: February 14, 2021, 11:37:57 AM »
Did Summers and Swann write their book not knowing in advance whether they would be any interest in it?  Were they motivated purely out of a desire to write about the case and nothing more?  What do sceptics think?

Do you remember Stephens tagline.. It was libellous towards S&S... John said he agreed with it

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #247 on: February 14, 2021, 11:39:42 AM »
I think that's quite an idiotic post. The very fact a book is accepted by a publisher is a virtual guarantee

The significant word being "virtual". The reality is that there's no guarantee attached to a publishing deal;

We imagine a successful author's life to be idyllic: write a book, or several, sell millions of copies, sit back and relax on a secluded island, living off of your book royalties.

The reality couldn't be more different.

A typical book author barely makes more than minimum wage. You receive an advance and 10% royalties on net profit from each book. If your book retails at $25 per copy, you would need to sell at least 4,000 copies to break even on a $5,000 advance.
https://www.inc.com/danny-iny/how-to-really-make-money-as-a-book-author-even-if-you-dont-sell-a-single-copy.html
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Offline barrier

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #248 on: February 14, 2021, 11:42:09 AM »
Do you remember Stephens tagline.. It was libellous towards S&S... John said he agreed with it

Always somebody else's fault.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #249 on: February 14, 2021, 11:43:28 AM »
The significant word being "virtual". The reality is that there's no guarantee attached to a publishing deal;

We imagine a successful author's life to be idyllic: write a book, or several, sell millions of copies, sit back and relax on a secluded island, living off of your book royalties.

The reality couldn't be more different.

A typical book author barely makes more than minimum wage. You receive an advance and 10% royalties on net profit from each book. If your book retails at $25 per copy, you would need to sell at least 4,000 copies to break even on a $5,000 advance.
https://www.inc.com/danny-iny/how-to-really-make-money-as-a-book-author-even-if-you-dont-sell-a-single-copy.html

I think it's idiotic to think people do not write books with the intention that the book will make money...

From your link


So if you're dreaming of making a living from writing books, realize that you absolutely can do it. Just maybe not in the way you expected.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2021, 11:46:23 AM by Davel »

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #250 on: February 14, 2021, 11:45:27 AM »
Filthy lucre.
So it’s quite ok to accuse them of cashing in on the case but heaven forfend if we say a word against St Gonc of Amaral?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #251 on: February 14, 2021, 11:46:47 AM »
The significant word being "virtual". The reality is that there's no guarantee attached to a publishing deal;

We imagine a successful author's life to be idyllic: write a book, or several, sell millions of copies, sit back and relax on a secluded island, living off of your book royalties.

The reality couldn't be more different.

A typical book author barely makes more than minimum wage. You receive an advance and 10% royalties on net profit from each book. If your book retails at $25 per copy, you would need to sell at least 4,000 copies to break even on a $5,000 advance.
https://www.inc.com/danny-iny/how-to-really-make-money-as-a-book-author-even-if-you-dont-sell-a-single-copy.html
you seem to be overlooking the fact that Amaral was the ex-cop in a world famous case that had massive interest to millions, not writing a book about his memoirs growing up on the Algarve.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #252 on: February 14, 2021, 11:48:26 AM »
Anyway why was my post considered libellous when other more contentious posts were not , that is the issue that should be being discussed but some people keep on avoiding the issue.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #253 on: February 14, 2021, 11:48:43 AM »
Wrong.  The only reason we’re discussing this at all is because G-Unit claims it is libellous to suggest Amaral resigned to cash in on the McCann case.

Amaral claimed he resigned to be free to express himself. You didn't 'suggest', you claimed as a fact that his reason was to cash in.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #254 on: February 14, 2021, 11:51:43 AM »
Amaral claimed he resigned to be free to express himself. You didn't 'suggest', you claimed as a fact that his reason was to cash in.
I didn’t actually.  I paraphrased your quote by changing the wording -  a little bit humorous satire that got you throwing your toys out of the pram.  Why was it libellous when it is perfectly acceptable to. make the same claim about Gordon Sillence?  Just explain that and I will let the matter drop.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".