Author Topic: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?  (Read 21553 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #255 on: February 14, 2021, 11:52:47 AM »
I didn’t actually.  I paraphrased your quote by changing the wording -  a little bit humorous satire that got you throwing your toys out of the pram.  Why was it libellous when it is perfectly acceptable to. make the same claim about Gordon Sillence?  Just explain that and I will let the matter drop.

Because the forum is biased

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #256 on: February 14, 2021, 11:53:47 AM »
Because the forum is biased
I know that and you know that but some people seem unable to see it, that’s what I’m keen to discuss.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #257 on: February 14, 2021, 11:57:07 AM »
you seem to be overlooking the fact that Amaral was the ex-cop in a world famous case that had massive interest to millions, not writing a book about his memoirs growing up on the Algarve.

You have supplied many reasons why you think Amaral's motive for resigning was to cash in. What you have not managed to prove is that it was his real motive, as you claimed.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #258 on: February 14, 2021, 12:03:49 PM »
You have supplied many reasons why you think Amaral's motive for resigning was to cash in. What you have not managed to prove is that it was his real motive, as you claimed.
I did not claim anything, I merely suggested it was when I paraphrased his quote that you reproduced.  You are continually deflecting from the REAL point which is why it constitutes libel and why I was punished for it when others are not for similar transgressions.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #260 on: February 14, 2021, 12:38:37 PM »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #261 on: February 14, 2021, 12:45:03 PM »
he may be cashing in on their daughter’s disappearance and their misery
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7665071/madeleine-mccanns-parents-slam-ex-cop-who-has-cashed-in-350k-by-accusing-them-of-covering-up-her-death/

The article does not say that his motive for resigning was to cash in, which was your claim.
Answer my post about what constitutes libel.  Eleanor has, why can’t you?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #262 on: February 14, 2021, 01:07:02 PM »
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/disgraced-cop-cashes-in-with-maddie-book-320068
If Clarence Mitchell and the Daily Mirror can state the blindingly obvious why can’t I?  Were either of them sued for libel? 

“Spokesman Clarence Mitchell said last night: "He is quite disgustingly seeking to make money out of Madeleine's situation and seeking publicity - which we are not prepared to give him. People should bear in mind he is a discredited former police officer who was removed for criticising Leicestershire police”.

Yeah, tell it like it is Clarrie!
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Offline barrier

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #263 on: February 14, 2021, 02:42:16 PM »
There are senior moderators and editors on here, why not ask of them.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2021, 11:52:22 PM by John »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #264 on: February 14, 2021, 02:44:33 PM »

There are senior moderators and editors on here, why not ask of them.
My question is open to all. What do you think?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #265 on: February 14, 2021, 03:09:32 PM »
Libel is, put simply, a published statement which defames someone's reputation. The main defences are truth or fair comment. Truth means the statement can be proved to be factual. Fair comment means the comment was an honest opinion.

In order to demonstrate that the statement "Amaral resigned to cash in on the disappearance of Madeleine McCann" is not libellous it needs to be shown to be true, which has been claimed.

I am of the opinion that the statement can't be shown to be true because the only person who can confirm the truth of the statement gave another reason entirely for his resignation.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #266 on: February 14, 2021, 03:14:42 PM »
Libel is, put simply, a published statement which defames someone's reputation. The main defences are truth or fair comment. Truth means the statement can be proved to be factual. Fair comment means the comment was an honest opinion.

In order to demonstrate that the statement "Amaral resigned to cash in on the disappearance of Madeleine McCann" is not libellous it needs to be shown to be true, which has been claimed.

I am of the opinion that the statement can't be shown to be true because the only person who can confirm the truth of the statement gave another reason entirely for his resignation.

You didn't expect Amaral to tell The Truth, did you?

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #267 on: February 14, 2021, 03:24:21 PM »
You didn't expect Amaral to tell The Truth, did you?

I don't expect anyone to always tell the truth, but if I call them a liar I need to be able to prove it.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #268 on: February 14, 2021, 03:32:21 PM »
I don't expect anyone to always tell the truth, but if I call them a liar I need to be able to prove it.

Even when they are already Convicted Perjurers?

Doesn't this amount to Honest Opinion?

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is libel on the Madeleine McCann board?
« Reply #269 on: February 14, 2021, 04:57:08 PM »
Even when they are already Convicted Perjurers?

Doesn't this amount to Honest Opinion?

Opinion is a very good defence, but not the one offered. The defence offered was truth.
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