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Redblossom

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #270 on: April 23, 2013, 10:41:23 PM »
Ferryman, Grime also took Eddie to America to help locate Theresa Parker's remains.

Exactly and that was sept 07 not 2006

ferryman is obsessing and indenial about a few things sigh

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #271 on: April 23, 2013, 10:41:53 PM »
If Eddie had been to America his training would not be in accordance with standard ACPO guidelines

Didn't Eddie belong to The Yorkshire Police?  They surely wouldn't have paid for him to go to America.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #272 on: April 23, 2013, 10:42:25 PM »
Eddie was a very special dog, we have to admit it. I'm not implying that he found what happened to Madeleine, but domestic accidents are not at all rare. Spend a night in a children hospital emergency service and you'll be convinced.
I've no doubt the McCanns are good parents and love their children. I don't find it fair neither to hate or to protect them. A mistake was done, nobody's perfect. But guilt overwhelmed everything. Or bad shame if you prefer.
I wish the situation could be, if not cleared up, at least made acceptable. Because there are twins at stake. I'm worried thinking that sooner or later they'll surf on the web.

debunker

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #273 on: April 23, 2013, 10:42:40 PM »
He may have gone to discuss Keela then, but the article is quite clear that Grime andEddie were in Lafayette together.

ferryman

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #274 on: April 23, 2013, 10:43:36 PM »
Ferryman, Grime also took Eddie to America to help locate Theresa Parker's remains.

Yes, yes.  But that was when he was freelance (from memory) after PdL'

Here is the report I am referring to:

Keela's Nose Makes Her Top Dog Sky News
 
11:52am UK, Friday December 30, 2005
 
Keela is a top dog in the police world, earning more in a day than her force's Chief Constable by working on some of the country's highest-profile crimes.

The pride of South Yorkshire

The 16-month-old springer spaniel can sniff out the smallest samples of human blood - even after items have been cleaned or washed many times.
 
The South Yorkshire Police dog has already helped forces across the country, including working on the stabbing of Abigail Witchalls in Surrey.
 
Her going rate is £530 per day, plus expenses.
 
If she worked every day of the year, she would earn almost £200,000 - around £70,000 more than her force's Chief Constable.
 
In the New Year, Keela will be travelling to America to assist the FBI with two murder inquiries.
 
A South Yorkshire force spokeswoman said the crime scene investigation dog has saved more then £200,000 nationally since April this year, helping with investigations in Ireland, Cornwall, Wiltshire, Surrey and the Thames Valley areas.
 
Her handler, PC Martin Grime, has been responsible for training Keela, along with National Search Adviser Mark Harrison, since June last year.
 
Unlike ordinary police dogs, Keela has never taken part in the usual six-week training course but has been trained, bit by bit, by PC Grime every day.
 
Her programme involved training her to ignore decomposing body materials other than human blood.
 
Instead of barking when she smells blood, she has been trained to have a "passive" alert - freezing with her nose as near to the subject matter as possible without touching, to enable scientists to recover the sample quickly and efficiently.
 
This technique has saved time and money on major investigations.
 
South Yorkshire Chief Constable Meredydd Hughes said: "Keela's training gives the force an edge when it comes to forensic investigation, which we should recognise and use more often.
 
"We know we have an operationally excellent dog section, and our specialist dogs are being developed in a unique way."


In fact, Grime didn't take any dogs with him on that trip ...

debunker

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #275 on: April 23, 2013, 10:44:50 PM »

ferryman

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #276 on: April 23, 2013, 10:50:19 PM »
This article also mentions Eddie being in th US
http://www.scentevidence.com/2009/07/dog-debate-at-center-of-murder-case.html

That is the Theressa Parker case after Grime was solo.

As police dogs, I don't believe Eddie and Keela ever worked together.

debunker

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« Reply #277 on: April 23, 2013, 10:56:53 PM »
This article also mentions Eddie being in th US
http://www.scentevidence.com/2009/07/dog-debate-at-center-of-murder-case.html

That is the Theressa Parker case after Grime was solo.

As police dogs, I don't believe Eddie and Keela ever worked together.

But you do now admit that Eddie was deployed in the US?

ferryman

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #278 on: April 23, 2013, 10:59:02 PM »
This article also mentions Eddie being in th US
http://www.scentevidence.com/2009/07/dog-debate-at-center-of-murder-case.html

That is the Theressa Parker case after Grime was solo.

As police dogs, I don't believe Eddie and Keela ever worked together.

But you do now admit that Eddie was deployed in the US?

Do now admit?

I've never disputed it.

I just don't believe he was ever trained at a human body farm, that's all.

Redblossom

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #279 on: April 23, 2013, 11:02:18 PM »
This article also mentions Eddie being in th US
http://www.scentevidence.com/2009/07/dog-debate-at-center-of-murder-case.html

That is the Theressa Parker case after Grime was solo.

As police dogs, I don't believe Eddie and Keela ever worked together.

They did in pdl so where  does that  leave your post that they never worked together, they also worked together in Jersey

Proof

« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 03:38:41 AM by John »

AnneGuedes

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #280 on: April 23, 2013, 11:03:47 PM »
Who pretended Eddie was trained in the body farm ? It's absurd, he was already trained ! Even Morse wasn't trained there. They're UK dogs !

ferryman

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #281 on: April 23, 2013, 11:04:20 PM »
This article also mentions Eddie being in th US
http://www.scentevidence.com/2009/07/dog-debate-at-center-of-murder-case.html

That is the Theressa Parker case after Grime was solo.

As police dogs, I don't believe Eddie and Keela ever worked together.

They did in pdl so where  does that  leave your post that they never worked together, they also worked together in Jersey

Unchallenged.

There is no evidence they worked together as police dogs.

debunker

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #282 on: April 23, 2013, 11:05:31 PM »
This article also mentions Eddie being in th US
http://www.scentevidence.com/2009/07/dog-debate-at-center-of-murder-case.html

That is the Theressa Parker case after Grime was solo.

As police dogs, I don't believe Eddie and Keela ever worked together.

But you do now admit that Eddie was deployed in the US?

Do now admit?

I've never disputed it.

I just don't believe he was ever trained at a human body farm, that's all.

That is not what you said above (see 336) where you appear to deny that Eddie went to the US.

ferryman

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #283 on: April 23, 2013, 11:05:54 PM »
Who pretended Eddie was trained in the body farm ? It's absurd, he was already trained ! Even Morse wasn't trained there.

Martin Grime.

Read his profile.

ferryman

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Re: Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor
« Reply #284 on: April 23, 2013, 11:09:41 PM »

That is not what you said above (see 336) where you appear to deny that Eddie went to the US.

My post at 5.17 this evening:

Also, I think Grime l.... outright about Eddie's alleged training in America.

« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 03:41:37 AM by John »