Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor

[Redblossom]

Mr Grime says that it is Eddie's job to react to both cadaver and blood.

**** so no need for keela then, make your mind up

My ignore thing didnt work,must retry,bye debunker

Oops i added you as buddy instead thats why lol

I've never found evidence before PdL that Eddie and Keela were deployed together. 

Keela would come into her own right for crimes where there is no murder, but culprits (of crimes other than murder) can be identified from findings of blood.

You are very creative I must say LOL

[ferryman]

If Eddie had been to America his training would not be in accordance with standard ACPO guidelines

[ferryman]

It seems that this is undecided- insufficient evidence either way.

Clear cut.  Eddie didn't go.  We don't send dogs to America to be trained on human remains.

[debunker]

Clear cut.  Eddie didn't go.  We don't send dogs to America to be trained on human remains.

I accept that as your opinion. Where is the proof that Eddie did not go to the States?

[Redblossom]

Clear cut.  Eddie didn't go.  We don't send dogs to America to be trained on human remains.

prove it or else you are saying mr grime is a liar

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Vol. IX p. 2480

EVRD

'Eddie' The Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog (E.V.R.D.) will search for and
locate human remains and body fluids including blood in any environment or
terrain. The initial training of the dog was conducted using human blood and
stil born decomposing piglets. The importance of this is that the dog is
introduced to the scent of a decomposing body NOT FOODSTUFF. This
ensures that the dog disregards the 'bacon sandwich' and 'kebab' etc that is
ever present in the background environment. Therefore the dog would
remain efficient searching for a cadaver in a café where the clientele were sat
eating bacon sandwiches. He has additionally trained exclusively using
human remains in the U.S.A. in association with the F.B.I. The enhanced
training of the dog has also involved the use of collection of 'cadaver scent'
odor from human corpses using remote technical equipment which does not
contact the subject. This method is comparable to the simulation of cross
contamination. It does however differ in that the remote scent samples
recovery does not involve subject matter and therefore is a 'pure' scent
sample. The dog has since initial training gained considerable experience in
successfully operationally locating human remains and evidential forensic
material.

[debunker]

In his legal affidavit Mr Grime states:
"The dog has however considerable experience in operational recovery of human remains and evidential forensic material and has trained exclusively using human remains in the U.S.A. in association with the F.B.I. The enhanced training of the dog involves the use of collection of 'Dead body scent' odour from corpses using remote technical equipment which does not contact."

Do you think he is lying in a legal deposition?

[ferryman]

There has to be some reason why SYP have pulled all questions and answers about Eddie. Keela and Grime from their FOI disclosure log ...

[debunker]

There has to be some reason why SYP have pulled all questions and answers about Eddie. Keela and Grime from their FOI disclosure log ...

Could be for manyreasons.

[debunker]

Eddie has visited the USA
http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2007/09/eddie-the-crime-dog-to-help-in-hunt-for-missing-911-dispatcher/

[ferryman]

Eddie has visited the USA
http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2007/09/eddie-the-crime-dog-to-help-in-hunt-for-missing-911-dispatcher/

Yep.  Proven and acknowledged.

But without dogs.

He went to discuss Keela, at the time of the trip, a (genuinely) rare dog of her type and the Americans took an interest.

You'll not find any reference to the "enhanced" victim recovery dog status outside Eddie and Grime.

ETA:

I think you've got the wrong report there.  This is the one:

http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2005/12/on-scent-of-success-sniffer-dog-keela-earns-more-than-her-chief-constable/

[debunker]

Eddie has visited the USA
http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2007/09/eddie-the-crime-dog-to-help-in-hunt-for-missing-911-dispatcher/

Yep.  Proven and acknowledged.

But without dogs.

He went to discuss Keela, at the time of the trip, a (genuinely) rare dog of her type and the Americans took an interest.

You'll not find any reference to the "enhanced" victim recovery dog status outside Eddie and Grime.

Sorry but that article says

FBI Recruits Expert, K-9 From UK
posted September 13, 2007 (here)
A dog who is trained to find human remains has been brought in from the United Kingdom to help in the search for Theresa Parker, the Walker County 911 operator who has been missing for almost six months.
FBI Regional Director John Parrish said Martin Grimes and his English springer spaniel Eddie are some of the best in the world at finding bodies.
Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson introduced Mr. Grimes and Eddie at a press conference in LaFayette on Thursday afternoon.

[ferryman]

Eddie has visited the USA
http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2007/09/eddie-the-crime-dog-to-help-in-hunt-for-missing-911-dispatcher/

Yep.  Proven and acknowledged.

But without dogs.

He went to discuss Keela, at the time of the trip, a (genuinely) rare dog of her type and the Americans took an interest.

You'll not find any reference to the "enhanced" victim recovery dog status outside Eddie and Grime.

Sorry but that article says

FBI Recruits Expert, K-9 From UK
posted September 13, 2007 (here)
A dog who is trained to find human remains has been brought in from the United Kingdom to help in the search for Theresa Parker, the Walker County 911 operator who has been missing for almost six months.
FBI Regional Director John Parrish said Martin Grimes and his English springer spaniel Eddie are some of the best in the world at finding bodies.
Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson introduced Mr. Grimes and Eddie at a press conference in LaFayette on Thursday afternoon.

You had the wrong report.  I've given the correct one in an edit to my last post.

[Redblossom]

Eddie has visited the USA
http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2007/09/eddie-the-crime-dog-to-help-in-hunt-for-missing-911-dispatcher/

Yep.  Proven and acknowledged.

But without dogs.

He went to discuss Keela, at the time of the trip, a (genuinely) rare dog of her type and the Americans took an interest.

You'll not find any reference to the "enhanced" victim recovery dog status outside Eddie and Grime.

oh dear, that link was to mr grime being called to the usa to help in the case of missing theresa parker where he went with his dogs, so YES WITH dogs and said dog alerted to cadaver odour, said man is in prison, and mrs parkers remains were found

Still, Mr Grime went to the USA before that to enhance his dog training on human cadavers

link also puts paid go those ignorants that say Mr Grime never worked again after PDL because he wasnt licenced and his dogs were only security dogs, well he both worked in the UK  Ireland and other countries after leaving the SYP and  successfully and to date so there was no issue ever about his licence

[debunker]

Eddie has visited the USA
http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2007/09/eddie-the-crime-dog-to-help-in-hunt-for-missing-911-dispatcher/

Yep.  Proven and acknowledged.

But without dogs.

He went to discuss Keela, at the time of the trip, a (genuinely) rare dog of her type and the Americans took an interest.

You'll not find any reference to the "enhanced" victim recovery dog status outside Eddie and Grime.

Sorry but that article says

FBI Recruits Expert, K-9 From UK
posted September 13, 2007 (here)
A dog who is trained to find human remains has been brought in from the United Kingdom to help in the search for Theresa Parker, the Walker County 911 operator who has been missing for almost six months.
FBI Regional Director John Parrish said Martin Grimes and his English springer spaniel Eddie are some of the best in the world at finding bodies.
Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson introduced Mr. Grimes and Eddie at a press conference in LaFayette on Thursday afternoon.

You had the wrong report.  I've given the correct one in an edit to my last post.

How is it wrong? How do you reach the conclusion that it is wrong?

[ferryman]

Eddie has visited the USA
http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2007/09/eddie-the-crime-dog-to-help-in-hunt-for-missing-911-dispatcher/

Yep.  Proven and acknowledged.

But without dogs.

He went to discuss Keela, at the time of the trip, a (genuinely) rare dog of her type and the Americans took an interest.

You'll not find any reference to the "enhanced" victim recovery dog status outside Eddie and Grime.

Sorry but that article says

FBI Recruits Expert, K-9 From UK
posted September 13, 2007 (here)
A dog who is trained to find human remains has been brought in from the United Kingdom to help in the search for Theresa Parker, the Walker County 911 operator who has been missing for almost six months.
FBI Regional Director John Parrish said Martin Grimes and his English springer spaniel Eddie are some of the best in the world at finding bodies.
Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson introduced Mr. Grimes and Eddie at a press conference in LaFayette on Thursday afternoon.

You had the wrong report.  I've given the correct one in an edit to my last post.

How is it wrong? How do you reach the conclusion that it is wrong?

Grime went to America in 2006 as an employee of SYP and on SYP business to discuss Keela.