Author Topic: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?  (Read 4857 times)

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Offline faithlilly

This point was raised on another thread and I thought it might be interesting to discuss how, and more interestingly why, this claim has arisen.

To me Brueckner is an abhorrent  individual who will always pose a danger to females of any age. I have no empathy for him and if it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he is guilty for Madeleine’s disappearance then I hope he is never again a free man. From the information in the public domain, however, we are a long way from that and pointing that out is not displaying support for Brueckner, it is simply true.

A miscarriage of justice means justice for no one, least of all Madeleine...and surely no matter what side of the fence we’re on ultimately that’s what we all hope for?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2021, 06:22:13 PM »
I don’t know why I’m bothering to reply as you’ll pretend not to read this but here goes again...

Check out Spam's posts and then check out all those posts by forum members seeking to excuse or minimise or even deny CB's crimes, coupled with those who have empathised with how he must feel to be (in the opinion of some) unfairly accused of Madeleine's disappearance, how he has been denied fair treatment, how he must now fear for his life, and those who are supportive of his rights to legal redress and hope he sues the media and the German authorities.  That’s Empathy, right there.

I.M.O.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2021, 06:32:26 PM »
This point was raised on another thread and I thought it might be interesting to discuss how, and more interestingly why, this claim has arisen.



That surprised me to how the hell can you show empathy of any kind to CB.

Is it because everyone does not take what Wolt says as gospel that he is the abductor of Maddie.

When He says he has evidence obviously too weak for interviewing him or bringing charges. so not concrete as he suggests.

Is calling him a patsy also mistook for empathy - is there any proof anyone has shown CB any empathy at all for the accusation to be stated in the first place.

Offline kizzy

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2021, 06:37:42 PM »
I don’t know why I’m bothering to reply as you’ll pretend not to read this but here goes again...

Check out Spam's posts and then check out all those posts by forum members seeking to excuse or minimise or even deny CB's crimes, coupled with those who have empathised with how he must feel to be (in the opinion of some) unfairly accused of Madeleine's disappearance, how he has been denied fair treatment, how he must now fear for his life, and those who are supportive of his rights to legal redress and hope he sues the media and the German authorities.  That’s Empathy, right there.

I.M.O.

coupled with those who have empathised with how he must feel to be (in the opinion of some)

Who are these posters then that it seems is showing empathy for CB or minimising his crimes.

Offline Eleanor

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2021, 06:40:44 PM »

Amaral called CB a Patsy, didn't he?  Does Amaral have empathy for him?

Offline faithlilly

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2021, 06:41:32 PM »
coupled with those who have empathised with how he must feel to be (in the opinion of some)

Who are these posters then that it seems is showing empathy for CB or minimising his crimes.

It appears that some translate understanding reality for empathy and support.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2021, 06:43:06 PM »
Amaral called CB a Patsy, didn't he?  Does Amaral have empathy for him?

For believing that he is a patsy...no.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2021, 06:47:18 PM »
coupled with those who have empathised with how he must feel to be (in the opinion of some)

Who are these posters then that it seems is showing empathy for CB or minimising his crimes.

You have posted ~ "just hearsay and a phone ping" while you continue to post slurring the McCanns.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2021, 06:56:35 PM »
For believing that he is a patsy...no.
Only the person experiencing empathy can express their empathy.

I spent 10 years trying to help a person who was possibly wrongly convicted.  Very much like the Brueckner case where his history meant not many had much empathy for him.  It wasn't a matter of whether he had done the crime but "he'll do, throw away the key".

Even I had times the thought why am I trying to help this bad person.
But our justice system is supposed to convict the right person for the said crime.

Life imprisonment for a crime you didn't commit?  Can you feel some empathy for someone in that predicament?

Bias by the police and the prosecution can lead to stacking the evidence against the suspect/accused. 
Where vital evidence that might have helped the accused is not disclosed. 

I will say I have some empathy for Brueckner for the fact he is being treated as a guilty person before the trial has been completed.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2021, 07:03:17 PM »
Only the person experiencing empathy can express their empathy.

I spent 10 years trying to help a person who was possibly wrongly convicted.  Very much like the Brueckner case where his history meant no one had much empathy for him.  It wasn't a matter of whether he had done the crime but "he'll do, throw away the key".

Even I had times the thought why am I trying to help this bad person.
But our justice system is supposed to convict the right person for the said crime.

Life imprisonment for a crime you didn't commit?  Can you feel some empathy for someone in that predicament?

Bias by the police and the prosecution can lead to stacking the evidence against the suspect/accused. 
Where vital evidence that might have helped the accused is not disclosed. 

I will say I have some empathy for Brueckner for the fact he is being treated as a guilty person before the trial has been completed.

Excellent post Rob...one of your best. It’s not easy to swim against the tide.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2021, 07:03:56 PM »
coupled with those who have empathised with how he must feel to be (in the opinion of some)

Who are these posters then that it seems is showing empathy for CB or minimising his crimes.
Posters on here have described CB’s crimes as “hardly the crime of the century”, questioned whether or not it was children or teenagers close to the age of consent that he’d actually abused, claimed his rape couldn’t have been that serious if he only got seven years, etc etc etc, if you want me to name names it will take me a while to find those posts otherwise you can simply call me a liar and w’ll leave it for others to judge if I’m right or wrong in what I say.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2021, 07:04:23 PM »
Amaral called CB a Patsy, didn't he?  Does Amaral have empathy for him?
I think so, yes.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2021, 07:05:01 PM »
You have posted ~ "just hearsay and a phone ping" while you continue to post slurring the McCanns.

You have posted ~ "just hearsay and a phone ping


Is that suppose to be empathy - just because my opinion is he is not the abductor.- are you saying that is empathy tut tut




What has -  what I think about the mccs got to do with this thread surely that is of topic imo

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2021, 07:05:29 PM »
Only the person experiencing empathy can express their empathy.

I spent 10 years trying to help a person who was possibly wrongly convicted.  Very much like the Brueckner case where his history meant not many had much empathy for him.  It wasn't a matter of whether he had done the crime but "he'll do, throw away the key".

Even I had times the thought why am I trying to help this bad person.
But our justice system is supposed to convict the right person for the said crime.

Life imprisonment for a crime you didn't commit?  Can you feel some empathy for someone in that predicament?

Bias by the police and the prosecution can lead to stacking the evidence against the suspect/accused. 
Where vital evidence that might have helped the accused is not disclosed. 

I will say I have some empathy for Brueckner for the fact he is being treated as a guilty person before the trial has been completed.
There we go, point proved. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2021, 07:06:38 PM »
Excellent post Rob...one of your best. It’s not easy to swim against the tide.
So now you accept that there are people on here with empathy for Bruckner.  That  didn’t take long did it?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".