What Evidence is There That There is Empathy for Brueckner on the Board?

[Eleanor]

For believing that he is a patsy...no.

So why did Amaral tell fibs about CB's camper van and his hair?

[Eleanor]

I think so, yes.

Two people in the poop together, do you mean?

[Robittybob1]

Excellent post Rob...one of your best. It’s not easy to swim against the tide.

I was trying to differentiate the different empathies.  I want to know what happened to Madeleine, I don't want the McCanns falsely accused either.  I know Brueckner is a convicted criminal, but I think my empathy really goes out to those who like me who'll spend years fighting for a fair trial.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Two people in the poop together, do you mean?

I think Amaral (like some people on here) really, really don’t want any evidence uncovered on CB that would help put him away for the crime of abduction and/or murder., and as such he (and they) can’t help themselves rooting for the loathesome individual, hoping the German investigation fails, hoping his (their) theroies about the McCanns can continue indefinitely without ever being proven wrong.  CB is on their team IMO and they want him to succeed in his battle with the Germans and the media.  Same thing goes for all the other paedos and reprobates that have been potential suspects in this case, you’ll always find sceptics to empathise with their plight of being linked to the case.

[faithlilly]

So why did Amaral tell fibs about CB's camper van and his hair?

I’m afraid you’d have to ask him that but it doesn’t have to follow that because he believed Brueckner was a patsy that he empathised with him.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’m afraid you’d have to ask him that but it doesn’t have to follow that because he believed Brueckner was a patsy that he empathised with him.

You empathise with him (and don’t deny it) so why not Amaral?

[Robittybob1]

Two people in the poop together, do you mean?

I read somewhere that Amaral resigned so he could publish his book.  He talked of political interference in the way his investigation was going.

You'd think this point would have been made clear in his book, and I can't really recall if it was.  But the McCanns seemed to feel their reputation was damaged by the book.  I think it was too.

But I'm thinking of late that the McCanns and Amaral are really on the same side, they both wanted to find out what happened.

[Robittybob1]

I’m afraid you’d have to ask him that but it doesn’t have to follow that because he believed Brueckner was a patsy that he empathised with him.

You'd have to be pretty cold to say someone was a patsy and not feel some empathy for the person being a patsy.
Only the person in question can really know how he/she feels. 

[Eleanor]

I read somewhere that Amaral resigned so he could publish his book.  He talked of political interference in the way his investigation was going.

You'd think this point would have been made clear in his book, and I can't really recall if it was.  But the McCanns seemed to feel their reputation was damaged by the book.  I think it was too.

But I'm thinking of late that the McCanns and Amaral are really on the same side, they both wanted to find out what happened.

I wish I could agree with you, Rob.  But they have entirely different suspects.

[faithlilly]

You'd have to be pretty cold to say someone was a patsy and not feel some empathy for the person being a patsy.
Only the person in question can really know how he/she feels.

I think Brueckner is a pretty unique case and his past criminal behaviour would temper any feelings you’d usually have for someone in his position.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think Brueckner is a pretty unique case and his past criminal behaviour would temper any feelings you’d usually have for someone in his position.

I don’t think you actually understand the meaning of empathy.

[Robittybob1]

I wish I could agree with you, Rob.  But they have entirely different suspects.

The police when they investigate a case have suspects, or whatever you want to call them,  POI persons of interest will do.
They investigate that POI until they are satisfied they are not involved.

If there is political interference along a particular line of investigation what is the investigator supposed to do?

His superiors took him off the case.  We'll never know if it was there or not.

As far as describing CB with long hair.  - maybe he did have long hair at one time.  (confused maybe)

[Brietta]

You have posted ~ "just hearsay and a phone ping

Is that suppose to be empathy - just because my opinion is he is not the abductor.- are you saying that is empathy tut tut




What has -  what I think about the mccs got to do with this thread surely that is of topic imo

Not for comparison purposes.

[Wonderfulspam]

I think Amaral (like some people on here) really, really don’t want any evidence uncovered on CB that would help put him away for the crime of abduction and/or murder., and as such he (and they) can’t help themselves rooting for the loathesome individual, hoping the German investigation fails, hoping his (their) theroies about the McCanns can continue indefinitely without ever being proven wrong.  CB is on their team IMO and they want him to succeed in his battle with the Germans and the media.  Same thing goes for all the other paedos and reprobates that have been potential suspects in this case, you’ll always find sceptics to empathise with their plight of being linked to the case.

Absolutely.

Innocent paedophiles are yet another victim of this case & it's continuous witch hunt & I feel no sense of shame in standing up for innocent paedophiles & their right to be presumed innocent.

[Holly Goodhead]

This point was raised on another thread and I thought it might be interesting to discuss how, and more interestingly why, this claim has arisen.

To me Brueckner is an abhorrent  individual who will always pose a danger to females of any age. I have no empathy for him and if it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he is guilty for Madeleine’s disappearance then I hope he is never again a free man. From the information in the public domain, however, we are a long way from that and pointing that out is not displaying support for Brueckner, it is simply true.

A miscarriage of justice means justice for no one, least of all Madeleine...and surely no matter what side of the fence we’re on ultimately that’s what we all hope for?

I don't think there's any doubt CB has a history of child sex abuse and petty crime eg drug dealing and theft but I don't see the evidence linking him with MM's disappearance. 

I think it was quite underhanded of the authorities to reveal enough info about CB without divulging his name knowing the tabloids would out him.  By all accounts he was a drifter without any real friends and family and therefore the authhorities might have seen him as easy prey knowing noone was going to defend his corner.  Thank goodness for FF who I understand has received threats to his life for representing CB.

I don't have any empathy for CB but I do believe in the presumption of innocence and the right to a fair trial.