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Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #450 on: March 08, 2021, 01:34:01 PM »
Forgive me but what point are you trying to make?

I hadn’t finished but seeing as you appear interested

What did Sandra Lean say in her book on the following, if anything?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-10090653.html

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’The trial is believed to be the first of its kind for more than 100 years’

‘The two boys were later arrested and became the first people in Scotland for more than a century to be convicted of “violation of a sepulchre”
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #451 on: March 08, 2021, 01:51:57 PM »
At Mitchell’s trial, judge Lord Nimmo Smith said:

‘I do not subscribe to the notion that this is a harmless recreational drug.
‘I believe that, in some instances at least, it can seriously damage the mental processes of those who habitually consume drugs. I think it may well have contributed to your being unable to make the distinction between fantasy and reality, which is essential for normal moral judgments, and that this, along with other factors I have mentioned, may have meant that when you killed Jodi you were unable to recognise what a truly wicked deed this was.”
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #452 on: March 08, 2021, 01:55:14 PM »
Forgive me but what point are you trying to make?

Why did Philip Mitchell leave?

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Corinne and Philip, split up in 1999

And what does Luke/CorrineMitchell & Sandra Lean say about this
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More unsettling was the casual, contemptuous way he chatted with police dog handlers about their animals and mocked officers for allowing the bins in the street to be emptied before the search for a possible murder weapon had begun.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #453 on: March 08, 2021, 03:16:11 PM »
Dec 2004
‘‘MARILYN MANSON’s DVD ‘THE GOLDEN AGE OF GROTESQUE’ was played in court yesterday (December 23) in the trial of a teenager accused of murdering schoolgirl JODI JONES.
The DVD – which shows two girls tied together near a track and struggling as hoods were placed over their heads – was seized by police from the home of Luke Mitchell, 16, who denies murdering Jodi on June 30 last year.
He told detectives he bought the DVD two days after 14-year-old Jodi’s naked and bloodstained body was found in woods near her home in Dalkeith, near Edinburgh.
The High Court in Edinburgh was told that during the police interview on July 4 last year Mitchell also chatted about his musical interests, including Marilyn Manson.
Mitchell, who was then aged 14, told them he had bought Manson’s CD, and bonus DVD, at a supermarket.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/marilyn-manson-133-1357041

He told Detective Constable Stephen Quinn: “It is a weird sort of gothic video.”

Mitchell described the contents as “trancestyle”, with Manson “saying random words and stuff” over film of a car driving down a road in the middle of the night.

Prosecutor Alan Turnbull QC asked for the first 10 minutes of the DVD to be played.

The jury heard repetitive music and lyrics such as “stop rehearsing alcohol and start performing narcotics” and “the only thing that is immortal in this world is money”.

Mr Turnbull asked the detective if the contents did include, as Mitchell had said, a car driving down the road in the middle of the night, and DC Quinn agreed.

“The portion we watched also seemed to include a number of flash images. In some there seemed to be a young girl who is naked.”

The detective replied: “It seemed to be like that, yes.” He also agreed that in some images the girl appeared to be lying on the ground.

Mr Turnbull described how occupants got out of a car after seeing two struggling women wearing corsets, which made them seem to be naked and tied together. Hoods or bags were then put over the women’s heads as they struggled.

“The girls were to some extent molested and carried away,” said Mr Turnbull, and DC Quinn agreed.

The detective also agreed with Donald Findlay QC, defending Mitchell, that the ‘The Golden Age of Grotesque’, had been bought in Sainsbury’s and bore a 15 age restriction certificate.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #454 on: March 08, 2021, 03:21:02 PM »
He told Detective Constable Stephen Quinn: “It is a weird sort of gothic video.”

Mitchell described the contents as “trancestyle”, with Manson “saying random words and stuff” over film of a car driving down a road in the middle of the night.

Prosecutor Alan Turnbull QC asked for the first 10 minutes of the DVD to be played.

The jury heard repetitive music and lyrics such as “stop rehearsing alcohol and start performing narcotics” and “the only thing that is immortal in this world is money”.

Mr Turnbull asked the detective if the contents did include, as Mitchell had said, a car driving down the road in the middle of the night, and DC Quinn agreed.

“The portion we watched also seemed to include a number of flash images. In some there seemed to be a young girl who is naked.”

The detective replied: “It seemed to be like that, yes.” He also agreed that in some images the girl appeared to be lying on the ground.

Mr Turnbull described how occupants got out of a car after seeing two struggling women wearing corsets, which made them seem to be naked and tied together. Hoods or bags were then put over the women’s heads as they struggled.

“The girls were to some extent molested and carried away,” said Mr Turnbull, and DC Quinn agreed.

The detective also agreed with Donald Findlay QC, defending Mitchell, that the ‘The Golden Age of Grotesque’, had been bought in Sainsbury’s and bore a 15 age restriction certificate.

Does Sandra Lean mention anything in her book about how the above material could re-traumatise a ‘normal’ 14/15 year old?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #455 on: March 08, 2021, 04:24:27 PM »
I hadn’t finished but seeing as you appear interested

What did Sandra Lean say in her book on the following, if anything?

Nope I’m still confused. What has this to do with Luke’s case?

BTW if you want to know what Sandra says in her book can I suggest that you buy it? All proceeds go to a good cause.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #456 on: March 08, 2021, 04:30:06 PM »
Why did Philip Mitchell leave?

And what does Luke/CorrineMitchell & Sandra Lean say about this

Why did Philip leave? None of your business.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #457 on: March 08, 2021, 04:35:25 PM »
Does Sandra Lean mention anything in her book about how the above material could re-traumatise a ‘normal’ 14/15 year old?

Again not sure of the point that your are trying to make? Luke bought the cd after the murder so it has no relevance. Note though that this child did not own one cd, dvd or book by Marilyn Manson before the murder. You might consider that as strange for someone allegedly so obsessed with the singer.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #458 on: March 08, 2021, 04:51:04 PM »
Luke bought the cd after the murder so it has no relevance.

No relevance to what exactly ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #459 on: March 08, 2021, 04:54:42 PM »
No relevance to what exactly ?

To the murder. Isn’t that what we’re talking about?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #460 on: March 08, 2021, 05:03:05 PM »
Does Sandra Lean mention anything in her book about how the above material could re-traumatise a ‘normal’ 14/15 year old?

Nope I’m still confused

Do you not think it’s relevant to the workings of a criminal mind?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #461 on: March 08, 2021, 05:03:39 PM »
Why did Philip leave? None of your business.

It’s relevant to the case

What did the police uncover?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #462 on: March 08, 2021, 05:05:00 PM »
All proceeds go to a good cause.

I see nothing good in what Luke/Corrine Mitchell & Sandra Lean are choosing to do
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #463 on: March 08, 2021, 05:07:20 PM »
Luke bought the cd after the murder so it has no relevance

It has every relevance

Does Sandra Lean mention anything in her book about how the above material could re-traumatise a ‘normal’ 14/15 year old?

What does Sandra Lean say in her book about this ?

Or does she omit it?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"
« Reply #464 on: March 08, 2021, 05:26:05 PM »
Why did Philip leave? None of your business.

Was Luke Mitchell destabilised by his dad leaving?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation