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Offline Dexter

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #75 on: July 05, 2021, 01:53:02 PM »
I see. The money for travel was for you? That's not the same as a convicted prisoner receiving the money directly. Wasn't Corinne's GoFundMe pulled because GoFundMe heard CM was giving the money to LM and that's against their rules?

It's exactly the same....

Offline rulesapply

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #76 on: July 05, 2021, 03:28:32 PM »
She knows alright.  @)(++(*

If the action was dropped, wouldn't there be profits from the house sale allowing CM to find somewhere better to live? Of course she may have had other debts to settle. That's a possibility too but considering CM doesn't own the land Scott's Caravans stood on, it was kind of the owner to allow CM to live there for six years.

Offline Parky41

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #77 on: July 05, 2021, 03:43:45 PM »
All this blagging?

Where is the truth? This working away with people for five years on what can/can't be done/said?  - to this removal of stuff from social media nonsense when the blagging two years ago was that a legal team were already on board.

I'm sorry, this continuously just shows how dishonest these people are.  Taking advantage of susceptible people for money? Using firstly CM's health and lack of wealth as a front? This plea for money has been going on for over two years. Kickstarted at first for Lean to pay for her man hours. Who's employment status appears to be on one of those zero hours type basis? No contract as can readily just not work for weeks on end?

What has effectively happened since this doc went out? First and foremost it has been the continuation of that push for funds? By various means of which Lean has stated she needed to be in control of. To run the shop front so to speak of this IB charity? And what can be taken as avoidance of paying any duty on sales? As one was asked to buy direct and not via Amazon.  Losing that money trail. I'm not accusing Lean of this, I am simply stating it is a means to make more money. What also happened is over 200 sales went missing? Money paid but no books? And Lean hinted that someone on high was trying to stop her word from being spread? Utter nonsense in this bloody big conspiracy theory.  For this other group who were concentrating on the Mitchell side wanted to keep hold of the purse strings. In short has the main battle being that of holding the purse strings? Of Lean not being trusted?? Has word from forums and people commenting on social media brought some shady areas to light? Namely that of the old WAP, where one of the registered names was untraceable? Made up.

And then and only then coming second is that drive to campaign, to spread the word, to spread the word to erm buy the book? So it again comes back to money. That when this was slowing down, up pops this new legal team and out pops certain people from social media? As after 5 years of working around what can and can't be said, a legal team already blagged about two years ago? Up pops another which is not really about Mitchell but the excuse to retreat?

And yes Faith/Dexter people are questioning all of this and rightly so, for honestly is very much top of the bill here. For this book is promoting the murderer of Jodi Jones. By quite literally using the same form of blagging to gain support, in blagging that Mitchell could be innocent. It is high profile, it will grab interest and it will hopefully bring in money. But where is the trust? How can people even begin to put trust in something, that is first and foremost born from misinformation, that false premise of being "The true story of the murder of Jodi Jones" Written by someone who had formed a jigsaw puzzle back in 2003. Done at a time when three people firmly believed Mitchell would not be arrested? Under the pretence of being someone worth any salt, expertise, a DR in criminology to boot? When most of what is present in theory in the book was founded prior to Mitchells arrest. Then blagged about for many years until the POA was granted?

It could not be further from the truth for the truth lies in everything - Not these false claims over time of having access to "all" on this case  - A blatant lie for the true story of the murder of Jodi Jones does not stem from LM's defence - That is a fact.

Offline rulesapply

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #78 on: July 05, 2021, 03:59:15 PM »
All this blagging?

Where is the truth? This working away with people for five years on what can/can't be done/said?  - to this removal of stuff from social media nonsense when the blagging two years ago was that a legal team were already on board.

I'm sorry, this continuously just shows how dishonest these people are.  Taking advantage of susceptible people for money? Using firstly CM's health and lack of wealth as a front? This plea for money has been going on for over two years. Kickstarted at first for Lean to pay for her man hours. Who's employment status appears to be on one of those zero hours type basis? No contract as can readily just not work for weeks on end?

What has effectively happened since this doc went out? First and foremost it has been the continuation of that push for funds? By various means of which Lean has stated she needed to be in control of. To run the shop front so to speak of this IB charity? And what can be taken as avoidance of paying any duty on sales? As one was asked to buy direct and not via Amazon.  Losing that money trail. I'm not accusing Lean of this, I am simply stating it is a means to make more money. What also happened is over 200 sales went missing? Money paid but no books? And Lean hinted that someone on high was trying to stop her word from being spread? Utter nonsense in this bloody big conspiracy theory.  For this other group who were concentrating on the Mitchell side wanted to keep hold of the purse strings. In short has the main battle being that of holding the purse strings? Of Lean not being trusted?? Has word from forums and people commenting on social media brought some shady areas to light? Namely that of the old WAP, where one of the registered names was untraceable? Made up.

And then and only then coming second is that drive to campaign, to spread the word, to spread the word to erm buy the book? So it again comes back to money. That when this was slowing down, up pops this new legal team and out pops certain people from social media? As after 5 years of working around what can and can't be said, a legal team already blagged about two years ago? Up pops another which is not really about Mitchell but the excuse to retreat?

And yes Faith/Dexter people are questioning all of this and rightly so, for honestly is very much top of the bill here. For this book is promoting the murderer of Jodi Jones. By quite literally using the same form of blagging to gain support, in blagging that Mitchell could be innocent. It is high profile, it will grab interest and it will hopefully bring in money. But where is the trust? How can people even begin to put trust in something, that is first and foremost born from misinformation, that false premise of being "The true story of the murder of Jodi Jones" Written by someone who had formed a jigsaw puzzle back in 2003. Done at a time when three people firmly believed Mitchell would not be arrested? Under the pretence of being someone worth any salt, expertise, a DR in criminology to boot? When most of what is present in theory in the book was founded prior to Mitchells arrest. Then blagged about for many years until the POA was granted?

It could not be further from the truth for the truth lies in everything - Not these false claims over time of having access to "all" on this case  - A blatant lie for the true story of the murder of Jodi Jones does not stem from LM's defence - That is a fact.

After watching the C5 documentary I was disappointed to find out CM had been housed but it wasn't made clear when the documentary was aired. During a global pandemic when people's futures are so insecure the impression was deliberately given CM was still living like that and people were donating their hard earned cash. That was the first thing that made me question everything else. It was deliberately deceptive IMO.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #79 on: July 05, 2021, 04:19:01 PM »
After watching the C5 documentary

How much money were each of those individuals who appeared on the show paid?

https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/a867564/reality-tv-pay-wages/

https://www.quora.com/How-much-if-anything-are-people-paid-to-appear-on-TV-news-shows-as-pundits-or-commentators

And were some people paid and others not?

And didn’t Sandra Lean make the claim it took a year to make the show?

How did she fit in filming and ‘advising’ between her alleged part time jobs? ⬇️ ⬇️


‘She told Facebook followers:

“I’ve done this in my spare time and have had to take on other jobs to support me.”   
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6919979/crime-expert-sandra-lean-fund-effort-free-luke-mitchell/
« Last Edit: July 05, 2021, 04:31:39 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #80 on: July 05, 2021, 04:37:27 PM »
Has word from forums and people commenting on social media brought some shady areas to light? Namely that of the old WAP, where one of the registered names was untraceable? Made up.

What was this alleged ‘made up’ named person called?
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Offline Paranoid Android

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #81 on: July 05, 2021, 04:40:05 PM »
After watching the C5 documentary I was disappointed to find out CM had been housed but it wasn't made clear when the documentary was aired. During a global pandemic when people's futures are so insecure the impression was deliberately given CM was still living like that and people were donating their hard earned cash. That was the first thing that made me question everything else. It was deliberately deceptive IMO.

The documentary was also deliberately aimed at mums - it certainly pulled a few in, tbf.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #82 on: July 05, 2021, 04:42:39 PM »
A blatant lie for the true story of the murder of Jodi Jones does not stem from LM's defence - That is a fact.

No it doesn’t

Whatever merits Sandra Lean's book and her appraisal of the evidence in the Park case may have, they are, to my mind, completely eclipsed by her entrenched and overwhelming antagonism towards and her disdain for the way that the organs of the criminal justice system operate and conduct their affairs.”
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/Former-prosecutor-publishes-book-backing-Lady-in-the-Lake-murder-conviction-5999268a-951e-413c-9ed6-9562fdc5819f-ds

And Dick Binsteads comments apply to all the killers cases Sandra wrote about in ‘No Smoke’



« Last Edit: July 05, 2021, 04:49:44 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Guiltyascharged

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #83 on: July 05, 2021, 04:54:01 PM »
After watching the C5 documentary I was disappointed to find out CM had been housed but it wasn't made clear when the documentary was aired. During a global pandemic when people's futures are so insecure the impression was deliberately given CM was still living like that and people were donating their hard earned cash. That was the first thing that made me question everything else. It was deliberately deceptive IMO.

I seen it posted on social media. The day after the ch5 doc land surveyors moved in. Maybe they waited untill the doc was aired?

Offline rulesapply

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #84 on: July 05, 2021, 06:12:24 PM »
I seen it posted on social media. The day after the ch5 doc land surveyors moved in. Maybe they waited untill the doc was aired?

CM lived there for five or six years. Maybe she rented the land? She could have still held the lease? It was a Dickensian way to live. No toilet,  no water, rat infested, freezing cold, CM's I'll health.... CM being rehoused before the documentary was aired should have been made crystal clear. It was deceptive IMO especially when there was a cash collection involved.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #85 on: July 05, 2021, 06:17:46 PM »
CM lived there for five or six years. Maybe she rented the land? She could have still held the lease? It was a Dickensian way to live. No toilet,  no water, rat infested, freezing cold, CM's I'll health.... CM being rehoused before the documentary was aired should have been made crystal clear. It was deceptive IMO especially when there was a cash collection involved.

It was emotionally manipulative and no doubt meant to be  *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #86 on: July 05, 2021, 06:20:04 PM »
If - as Sandra Lean claimed there were others involved in the case for the past 5+ years - what help, if any, did they offer Corinne Mitchell and why didn’t they use their YouTube platforms (Sharon Indy sunshine, Paul Capaldi & all the other MaM super fans) to raise funds to help her?

And did Lisa Peden know her ‘friend’ was living like this?
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Offline rulesapply

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #87 on: July 05, 2021, 06:23:18 PM »
The documentary was also deliberately aimed at mums - it certainly pulled a few in, tbf.

Yeah or anyone who has/had a mum....everyone! I found out by accident CM had been rehoused the year before. I was shocked at first. It's extortion IMO and although con artists do It all the time, the last place I expected to see it was on a documentary about justice.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #88 on: July 05, 2021, 06:24:37 PM »
I see. The money for travel was for you? That's not the same as a convicted prisoner receiving the money directly. Wasn't Corinne's GoFundMe pulled because GoFundMe heard CM was giving the money to LM and that's against their rules?

I’m sorry but if you can’t see the hypocrisy with Nicholas haranguing Dr Lean when she appeals for monetary help when she did the same thing then you really aren’t paying attention.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Sandra Lean's GoFundMe campaign being promoted on a false premise?
« Reply #89 on: July 05, 2021, 06:24:51 PM »
.It's extortion IMO and although con artists do It all the time, the last place I expected to see it was on a documentary about justice.

Add exploitation to that 
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