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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1365 on: December 19, 2022, 11:32:40 PM »
Nikki Mead again
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Long discussion with Bill Long Psychology who is interviewing SH for HCR-20. We are both agreed that the lines are often blurred between reality and fantasy and this will make managing this case very difficult and recommending any offence focus work. We are also agreed there are no psychopathic traits although there are definitely personality disorder traits. He does not appear to be manipulating the system or staff but is generally assessing staff at all grades as he is currently in a moment of despair/crisis”

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Killer Simon Hall manipulated ‘the system’ since the day he was arrested and prison ‘staff’ since his incarceration and he suddenly turned over a new leaf

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‘Currently in a moment of despair/crisis’

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You don’t get it do you. I’ve been phoning and phoning because I’ve been trying to tell you I didn’t bloody do it. I was imagining things, seeing things, dreaming things
‘I said things to fit the situation. I said things to hurt you. I’ve got images in my mind from the crime scene photo’s and the video on Rough Justice. I’m not well Stephanie. See, you don’t get it.
Have you looked at false confessions on the internet.
Come on, think about it. I’m not well
‘I’ve spoken to a few people and I’ve written to a few others. I’m seeking out positivity, because that’s what I need
’ ~ killer Simon Hall HMP Wayland

It = commit a ‘brutal’ murder of a ‘defenceless’ woman who lived alone - in her own home - after breaking in via the back kitchen window, knowing her bedroom was at the front of the house

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1366 on: December 20, 2022, 12:48:01 AM »
Has anyone read this book? 

 ‘innocents betrayed’

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There will no doubt be some people who choose to keep their head buried in the sand, but when this innocence fraud is exposed to the few hundred ‘innocent’ people Sandra Lean is betraying

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1367 on: December 20, 2022, 03:03:58 AM »
Notice how these fraudsters don’t go back and revise their innocence fraud

https://twitter.com/johnmorris_1950/status/918000539492933633

Just like Sandra Lean didn’t with No Smoke

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Nothing from Brian Thornton either https://www.thejusticegap.com/clydach-murders-five-years-working-hopeless-case/

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His ‘research’ has been on innocence fraud

https://www.winchester.ac.uk/about-us/leadership-and-governance/staff-directory/staff-profiles/thornton.php
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1368 on: December 20, 2022, 10:28:00 AM »
Killer Simon Hall did not have any ‘psychiatric issues

William (Bill) Long - Nov 2013
Mr Hall has presented as having some insight into his behaviour, although this has not always been the case. Such insight as he can demonstrate is further compounded by his apparent lying and ‘testing out’ the reactions of others with what he says.
He considers that he can sometimes ‘introspect’ and understand his anger and his coldness towards others.

Following the acceptance of his guilt he has become increasingly negative about the motives of staff and other prisoners, believing that he will be ‘forced’ to stay in prison for years beyond his tariff. He does not however see staff or ‘the system’ as ‘out to get him’ because of his years of denial.
His most negative attitude he reserves for his parents, and particularly his mother, Lynne. He has made accusations about her (although then mostly withdrawn them) and blames her and his father for how he is, and for what he has done…
Mr Hall has been quite negative about his future since his acceptance of guilt…
There is no evidence from interview or available file evidence to suggest Mr Hall is currently experiencing any active symptoms relating to mental illness; there is no suggestion or diagnosis that he has ever experienced a serious mental illness.
“Most recently his mood has been reflective of feelings of anxiety, sorrow, regret, worry and concerns for himself and what will happen to him 


He always had a ‘negative attitude’ toward his adoptive mother Lynne Hall and wrote countless ‘negative’ letters about her to many people, including Phoebe Grant who wrote back in one of her letters;

You’re (sic) mother has always thought she was the victim in all of this. Always always. But I can’t believe she’s actually playing that card to you. Wrong and unforgivable

Part 12a Phoebe Grant & The Attendance Note(s)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/06/14/quite-a-hall-tale-part-12a%ef%b8%8f-2/


Mud Sticks - killer Simon Hall (6th Feb 2013)
My Mum still talks about me like a child to this day, even though I haven’t seen or spoken to her for 5 years. She’s still thinks she can speak for me and have a say in my decisions. Her latest TV interview shows that. Why didn’t my Dad stop it? Why does he let her walk all over him? Why didn’t my parents tell the reporters that we’ve not been in contact for years? Why did my mother use it as an opportunity for a cheap shot at my marriage to Stephanie. It’s all about the ‘appearance’ of things. At trial she came across badly in the dock with her performance, putting on her telephone voice. No wonder the jury didn’t believe her and the prosecution called her a liar.
“What is it with families? Why aren’t mine sticking up for me? Where are they? Still attacking Stephanie is probably where, or plotting how to cover their own ar..s. Lets not forget, they knew about the burglary. They spoke to lawyers probably more than I did. The private investigator that was hired to investigate this case wasn’t even told.
“By this time my mother had a new target, my wife. Stephanie Bon jumped right on the bandwagon with her and the witch hunt began. Was that because unlike the previous ultimatum I had chosen my wife over my family? Whatever, the fact is that Stephanie Bon has been out to destroy and damage my wife. I have proof of this. My Mum is too sly for that though and other people do her dirty work for her, like Shaun for example. She’s the expert puppet master, pulling strings and controlling people with her crocodile tears and guilt trips. I’ve had to put up with all of this bullsh*t for so long that I just don’t care for it anymore. I’ve got enough on my plate.
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/12/18/psychopathic-killer-simon-hall-blog-dated-6th-february-2013/

Killer Simon Hall was also out to destroy and damage people and was ‘sly’ and also got ‘other people to do’ his ‘dirty work’. He too was ‘the expert puppet master, pulling strings and controlling people’ with his ‘crocodile tears and guilt trips’ right up to his suicide.
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1369 on: December 20, 2022, 11:02:22 AM »
What I'm still unsure of SL, SF & Co is if they genuinely believe LM is innocent and can't see any other possibilty, or are they just in it to make a name for themselves?

Surely after decades of research they must have some doubts but have continued their campaign to save losing face and keep themselves in the public eye.

This is definitely a motivating factor for Sandra Lean

Sandra Lean
The way I see it, anyone who would take Stephanie's opinion of me, on a forum, at face value isn't worth my time or energy.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg383281.html#msg383281

Unfortunately there are people who have been ‘indoctrinated’ by Sandra Lean’s BS and are under her ‘control’

And when people can’t control you they will try to control how others see you
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« Reply #1370 on: December 20, 2022, 11:30:16 AM »
Killer Simon Hall also said some sick, sexually deviant BS on the Friday before his first suicide attempt in February 2013

His mask had well and truly come off by this point

But he blamed his character and the sick things he said on ‘drugs’

And played the victim

In reality he was out to destroy and damage people and was ‘sly’ and got ‘other people to do’ his ‘dirty work’. He was ‘the expert puppet master, pulling strings and controlling people’ with his ‘crocodile tears and guilt trips’

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« Reply #1371 on: December 20, 2022, 11:35:56 AM »
Killer Simon Hall also said some sick, sexually deviant BS on the Friday before his first suicide attempt in February 2013

His mask had well and truly come off by this point

Killer Simon Hall’s mask would have come off years ago

And the people who knew him best would have had an inkling about his murder

”We want him to walk free – that's where he should be. I can look people in the eye and know my son is innocent. We believe somewhere out there the real killer is walking free, and that frightens us’” ~ Lynne Hall 2003

He has a history that he shouldn’t be proud of and to be honest, stolen goods from 11 years ago are the least of his worries

“For the record, we have never been interested in what you do, only that Simon is portrayed in a good way”
- Shaun Hall 2013

Part 11a Shaun Hall “It’s Family & It’s Personal
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/06/12/quite-a-hall-tale-part-11b%ef%b8%8f/
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1372 on: December 20, 2022, 11:49:55 AM »
This is definitely a motivating factor for Sandra Lean

Sandra Lean
The way I see it, anyone who would take Stephanie's opinion of me, on a forum, at face value isn't worth my time or energy.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg383281.html#msg383281

Unfortunately there are people who have been ‘indoctrinated’ by Sandra Lean’s BS and are under her ‘control’

And when people can’t control you they will try to control how others see you

Un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton appears to be a sadist and both killers Simon Hall and Luke Mitchell

They gain ‘sexual pleasurable sensations produced by acts of cruelty

Sexual sadism is infliction of physical or psychologic suffering (eg, humiliation, terror) on another person to stimulate sexual excitement and orgasm

Does Sandra Lean refer to ‘sexual sadism’ in her 2nd book?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1373 on: December 20, 2022, 12:20:28 PM »
But he blamed his character and the sick things he said on ‘drugs’

And played the victim

In reality he was out to destroy and damage people and was ‘sly’ and got ‘other people to do’ his ‘dirty work’. He was ‘the expert puppet master, pulling strings and controlling people’ with his ‘crocodile tears and guilt trips’

In reality Simon Hall was a sexually sadistic killer, who would have killed again if he were released from prison

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1374 on: December 20, 2022, 12:38:32 PM »
Before being transferred back to closed prison conditions, psychopathic killer Simon Hall made a wealth of ‘disclosures’ but appeared to have a preference to make his disclosures to females, including female prison staff members as opposed the male staff members he was seeing regularly;

For example one entry read;

“… disclosed form of self harm in the form of vigorous masturbation and insertion of objects into anus

“…stated that had used set of hair clippers and a knife (cutlery) to insert in his rectum, stated that when he had used the knife he had wanted to hurt himself, ie; cut himself 

The above disclosures were made on the same day he admitted his murder

‘form of self harm’

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He was still fantasising about committing murder - he said so - more than once
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1375 on: December 20, 2022, 02:08:10 PM »
Will be addressing the nonsense of many of these incompetent fraudsters in 2023

The same incompetent fraudsters who choose to attempt to paint dangerous, calculated, cunning, manipulative, sexually deviant killers as harmless victims

There were obviously incompetent fraudsters involved in ‘assessing’ killer Luke Mitchell if the following is to be believed

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Again from wrongly accused site
These aspect surely indicate a particular psychological makeup? The psychological reports on Luke all returned normal results.
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Who requested the report?
Was this done before the trial and was it used?

Sandra Lean - 11th May 2010
As standard procedure, this was requested prior to trial, whilst Luke was on remand. It wasn't used at trial as "evidence" as such - it simply shows that he was mentally fit to stand trial, and was psychologically "normal."
The social enquiry report which is produced for the judge prior to sentencing also portrays Luke as "normal" with little standing out as "warnings" that he may be dangerous - the worst it can manage is a fight with some boys in school (which they started!)
Interestingly, this report concludes, "The fact that he continued to maintain his innocence throughout made any analysis of motive, attitude and risk impossible."
How can you asses "motive" for something someone categorically states they did not do?

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/shirleymckie/luke-mitchell-new-thread-t600-s230.html

What was the name of the incompetent fraudster who stated “The fact that he continued to maintain his innocence throughout made any analysis of motive, attitude and risk impossible
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1376 on: December 20, 2022, 02:38:30 PM »
Sandra Lean
Ronnie Mothersole I've had parents of 14 year olds asking me to sign books for their teenagers who are very interested in the case. I never give the book to under 18s, but if parents are OK with them reading it, then I'm happy to go with their guidance. After all, Luke and Jodi were only 14.
I know of one group of 14 year olds who wanted to do a class project based on the book! I guess, if in doubt, ask the parents!!!


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« Reply #1377 on: December 20, 2022, 02:43:53 PM »
What a surprise 🙄

http://www.longroadtojustice.com/

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg448049.html#msg448049

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The ‘longroadtojustice.com’ link now leading to some kind of pornographic site

Who set this up for Sandra Lean?


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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1378 on: December 20, 2022, 02:46:35 PM »
Baby killer Billy Middleton on Sandra Lean’s book ‘No Smoke’

7 December 2009
‘This book provides invaluable insight into the British justice system in a manner anyone can understand and everyone should be aware of. Having subsequently met the author I am also aware that the text is not simply an academic viewpoint but a heartfelt and passionate stand-point based on thorough examination of each featured case.
As a result, Sandra Lean has demonstrated not only an ability to highlight the flaws in each case but an awareness of the emotional turmoil experienced by the accused and families alike. A quality so often void from others writing from a purely sterile perspective.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/No-Smoke-Sandra-Lean/product-reviews/1906628009/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_paging_btm_next_2?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&pageNumber=2

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1379 on: December 20, 2022, 03:11:17 PM »
Sandra Lean
Ronnie Mothersole I've had parents of 14 year olds asking me to sign books for their teenagers who are very interested in the case. I never give the book to under 18s, but if parents are OK with them reading it, then I'm happy to go with their guidance. After all, Luke and Jodi were only 14.
I know of one group of 14 year olds who wanted to do a class project based on the book! I guess, if in doubt, ask the parents!!!


This is so disgusting on so many levels - not least because Sandra Lean again uses innocent 14 year old [Name removed] as a commodity to make it seem okay for other innocent 14 year olds and to benefit her. Zero respect!

Does anyone know the name of the teacher who has agreed to this alleged group of 14 years olds basing a ‘class project’ on her fraudulent 2nd book?
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