"Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean

[Nicholas]

Nikki Mead again
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”Long discussion with Bill Long Psychology who is interviewing SH for HCR-20. We are both agreed that the lines are often blurred between reality and fantasy and this will make managing this case very difficult and recommending any offence focus work. We are also agreed there are no psychopathic traits although there are definitely personality disorder traits. He does not appear to be manipulating the system or staff but is generally assessing staff at all grades as he is currently in a moment of despair/crisis”

And ‘the lines’ were not ’often blurred between reality and fantasy’

These sound like Nikki Mead’s projections

Killer Simon Hall knew exactly what he was doing and saying and who he was manipulating and why.

He got off on the things he would say and do to people

And he knew exactly who would act as his ‘flying monkeys’ and do his bidding for him. 

And many of the incompetent fraudsters who worked for HMP services, or outside agencies, did his bidding

[Nicholas]

And why did con-artist and liar Sandra Lean make the following post under the pseudonym Angeline on Colin Bowman’s forum on the 26th October 2008;

”I've just started finding my way round this forum, so I'll be bit more active with posts now!”

When Sandra Lean was already registered as Jigsawman and had been since August 2005 and was by October 2008 a GOD member

Part 18a Where Did It Really All Begin & Why
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/08/29/quite-a-hall-tale-part-18a%ef%b8%8f/

 

[Nicholas]

William (Bill) Long - Nov 2013
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His most negative attitude he reserves for his parents, and particularly his mother, Lynne. He has made accusations about her (although then mostly withdrawn them) and blames her and his father for how he is, and for what he has done…

Mud Sticks - killer Simon Hall (6th Feb 2013)
”It’s all about the ‘appearance’ of things. At trial she came across badly in the dock with her performance, putting on her telephone voice. No wonder the jury didn’t believe her and the prosecution called her a liar.
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/12/18/psychopathic-killer-simon-hall-blog-dated-6th-february-2013/[/quote]

Yet Lynne Hall chose to refer to her sexually sadistic killer son (adopted) as ‘brave’

And bare faced lied about him being ‘home now’ if ‘he had pleaded guilty in the beginning’

“I’m absolutely shocked because I know he is innocent and I still believe he is.

“But it’s the system. If he had pleaded guilty in the beginning, he would be home now.

“I know he has been really low and in hospital recently. He’s given up.

“I believe he feels he can’t take any more after all the fight he has put up and how brave he has been. ~
Lynne Hall 8th Aug 2013

Who did any of the above help

[Nicholas]

And ‘the lines’ were not ’often blurred between reality and fantasy’

These sound like Nikki Mead’s projections

Killer Simon Hall knew exactly what he was doing and saying and who he was manipulating and why.

He got off on the things he would say and do to people

And he knew exactly who would act as his ‘flying monkeys’ and do his bidding for him. 

And many of the incompetent fraudsters who worked for HMP services, or outside agencies, did his bidding

After sexual sadist killer Simon Hall’s 11 1/2 year innocence fraud was exposed consultant psychiatrist (& “medico-legal expert”) Tim Webb;

“..I felt it would be normal to expect him to be in some turmoil at that time but that this was not the same as saying that he was suffering from mental illness.
I likened the position to that of a prisoner who received news that his wife and children had all been killed in some freak accident”

 

[Kenmair]

This is definitely a motivating factor for Sandra Lean

Sandra Lean
The way I see it, anyone who would take Stephanie's opinion of me, on a forum, at face value isn't worth my time or energy. https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg383281.html#msg383281

Unfortunately there are people who have been ‘indoctrinated’ by Sandra Lean’s BS and are under her ‘control’

And when people can’t control you they will try to control how others see you

She's set up herself as a god on the official LM Justice FB group. Not a single probing question apart from 100% innocent wee laddie and his poor mum's life ruined by a killer still roaming our streets. Sooner she's exposed for the charlatan she is, the better, but I reckon some of her followers are beyond hope - the type that thought Ted Bundy was innocent or the Yorkshire Ripper was a Geordie.

There's no DNA! Police corruption! It was MK because he had a scratch on his face, it must have been him! etc

[Nicholas]

She's set up herself as a god on the official LM Justice FB group. Not a single probing question apart from 100% innocent wee laddie and his poor mum's life ruined by a killer still roaming our streets. Sooner she's exposed for the charlatan she is, the better, but I reckon some of her followers are beyond hope - the type that thought Ted Bundy was innocent or the Yorkshire Ripper was a Geordie.

There's no DNA! Police corruption! It was MK because he had a scratch on his face, it must have been him! etc

The Colin Bowman effect

Colin Bowman - 21st November 2010
I now intend to openly protect the forums and the people who make this argument on behalf of Luke Mitchell and others. I can now see that the advancement of a strong MOJ culture and movement, takes priority over both free-speech and individual-rights. Previously I was hanging onto values of free-speech and individual-rights; but I now recognise that the advancement of a MOJ culture and movement, is going to face such obstacles, that making this project happen has to be astutely done and be protected.

[Nicholas]

The following were posted by a Colin Bowman,15th May 2007, here: http://gerardkeegan.proboards.com/thread/247/luke-mitchell?page=11

"The Sandra Lean below has been actively concerned with the Luke Mitchell case since before his conviction.
Her book is very concerned about what passes for circumstantial evidence. In it she deals with the Luke Mitchell case.
I understand her to also have been working cooperatively with the Frontline production team.

Does anyone know who exactly Sandra Lean was ‘working cooperatively’ with from the Frontline production team?

[Nicholas]

One example -

“ I do not recall anyone from mental health suggesting hospitalisation, and had this been proposed, I thought it would be normal procedure for a psychiatrist to prepare a report. I am not medically qualified to give an opinion, but I recall that Simon was a very complex character. He seemed to have a personality disorder as well as psychiatric issues and I was very concerned that he should be moved to receive more appropriate care.
I was quite shocked to hear of Simon’s death having worked closely with him. I was upset that he had not been able to hold on for his move to Grendon where I believe he would have been able to finally unload his emotions in a safe place ~ Nikki Mead

Nikki Mead was not ‘medically qualified to give an opinion’ but she gave her opinion anyway about a sadistic, psychopathic killer she knew very little about and who had been ‘wrongly convicted’ and in turn wrongly sentenced and who was conning anyone who would listen to him - including Nikki Mead

[Nicholas]

William (Bill) Long - Nov 2013
“Mr Hall has presented as having some insight into his behaviour, although this has not always been the case. Such insight as he can demonstrate is further compounded by his apparent lying and ‘testing out’ the reactions of others with what he says.
He considers that he can sometimes ‘introspect’ and understand his anger and his coldness towards others.
“Following the acceptance of his guilt he has become increasingly negative about the motives of staff and other prisoners, believing that he will be ‘forced’ to stay in prison for years beyond his tariff. He does not however see staff or ‘the system’ as ‘out to get him’ because of his years of denial.
His most negative attitude he reserves for his parents, and particularly his mother, Lynne. He has made accusations about her (although then mostly withdrawn them) and blames her and his father for how he is, and for what he has done…
Mr Hall has been quite negative about his future since his acceptance of guilt…
There is no evidence from interview or available file evidence to suggest Mr Hall is currently experiencing any active symptoms relating to mental illness; there is no suggestion or diagnosis that he has ever experienced a serious mental illness.
“Most recently his mood has been reflective of feelings of anxiety, sorrow, regret, worry and concerns for himself and what will happen to him 

Psychopathic killer Simon Hall had complete insight when he planned his murder back in 2001, after which, according to his adoptive mother Lynne Hall, on the day he committed his murder “…appeared to enjoy our family day and was his usual entertaining self”

Part 3 Adoption
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/04/30/quite-a-hall-tale-part-3-%EF%B8%8F/

[Nicholas]

This is the level of intellect demonstrated back in Jul/Aug 2013

7th August 2013 - some notes of case review

Notes begin with:

“Further discussion was had in respect of the essence of Mr Hall’s constant watch

If a member of staff is with Mr Hall 24 hours a day and he smokes there is the consideration of passive smoke to the staff member and this would be treated as non-compliance by Mr Hall

It was agreed that Mr Hall go on a constant watch and that Mr Hall may not like this, as he has expressed in the past that he found it very intrusive

“Mr Hall has apologised to some people for lying to them about his innocence

“The radio and local TV will pick up on this story and we believe it is possible in a day or two the national papers will also pick up on it. Once the story is released to the EADT tomorrow the other papers will pick up on it.

We don’t know what Colin Adwent, EADT may write as he has previously been a supporter of Mr Hall an as such it is not possible to gauge what may be written in local newspapers

Stephanie is possibly feeling quite humiliated regarding the entries on the Justice for Hall website which have not been complimentary and how will they affect Mr Hall”

Colin Adwent now works for Suffolk police

 https://www.suffolk.police.uk/about-us/our-organisation/our-people

[Nicholas]

William (Bill) Long - Nov 2013
“There is no evidence from interview or available file evidence to suggest Mr Hall is currently experiencing any active symptoms relating to mental illness; there is no suggestion or diagnosis that he has ever experienced a serious mental illness.
“Most recently his mood has been reflective of feelings of anxiety, sorrow, regret, worry and concerns for himself and what will happen to him 

Killer Simon Hall didn’t have PTSD either - but Paul McLaughlin from MOJO Scotland’s ‘self help” pack on PTSD was helpful to him
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https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/12/18/psychopathic-killer-simon-hall-25th-march-2013-blog/

MOJO secured a 2 year supervised traineeship for Scott Forbes with Graham Mann solicitors.

Around the same time securing a paid placement for Paul McLaughlin (who was mentioned in the news article here https://stv.tv/news/west-central/1439054-miscarriages-of-justice-charity-stripped-of-lottery-funding/)

In their annual report MOJO stated:

“Paul and Scott have been a huge asset to the Organisation and in taking the
Projects aims and objectives forward.”

[Nicholas]

What I'm still unsure of SL, SF & Co is if they genuinely believe LM is innocent and can't see any other possibilty, or are they just in it to make a name for themselves?

Surely after decades of research they must have some doubts but have continued their campaign to save losing face and keep themselves in the public eye.

Defo “to make a name for themselves”

And their innocence FRAUD is see through

[Nicholas]

Dr Sandra Lean
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Simon Hall Dead
« on: February 23, 2014, 02:19:54 pm »
Publish
I'm sad to report that Stephanie Hall received the news that Simon Hall was found dead in his cell this morning.

Why did con artist Sandra Lean choose to post this when she did

Why did posting this seem to be a priority for her?

And why was she ‘sad’ - she only ever met him once as far as I’m aware

[Nicholas]

On 10th January 2017 Sandra Lean stated:

"You see, to this day, we have only Stephanie’s word about the circumstances leading up to the confession, the circumstances of the confession itself, the state of Simon’s mental and emotional well-being (or otherwise), the content of the confession etc. We have no information about how the confession was given or accepted (it was reported at the inquest that he “told his wife” who then “told him to tell the prison.” I have no idea if that is true or not – it was reported in the media, after all.) I’m not inclined to simply take Stephanie’s word (or anyone else’s for that matter) at face value.
But, of course, that is my opinion, one I’m perfectly entitled to hold" http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=595.msg429131#msg429131

When killer Simon Hall knew he was moving back to an open prison in Suffolk, he realised it was possible prison staff members would know Joan Albert’s extended family members would know things about his murder and him and his trial, which other people didn’t know - like the prison staff in Hampshire

After the 5th of November 2012 (Zenith window burglary revelation) he kept getting caught in lie after lie

The dysfunctional Hall family dynamics and the lengths they were all prepared to go to in order to portray a sexually sadistic killer and psychopathic predator “in a good light” and protect their lies and concoctions were there for all to see

But people like fraudster Sandra Lean pretended she couldn’t see them and continued to attempt to create diversions and deflections

They’ll be more on this in 2023

[Nicholas]

And why did con-artist and liar Sandra Lean make the following post under the pseudonym Angeline on Colin Bowman’s forum on the 26th October 2008;

”I've just started finding my way round this forum, so I'll be bit more active with posts now!”

When Sandra Lean was already registered as Jigsawman and had been since August 2005 and was by October 2008 a GOD member

Con-artist

Of similar ilk to the dangerous, psychopathic killers and predators she chooses to shill for