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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4860 on: November 28, 2023, 01:12:38 PM »
Red flag 

Shane Mitchell knew exactly why he was being asked about the music

It comes across like he was intentionally playing dumb

If Shane had commented in his statements that he had heard music then he couldn’t help but have known that Luke had been home. It’s a simple deduction.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4861 on: November 28, 2023, 03:54:06 PM »
All interesting stuff but my question is - if SM went as far as disposimg of incriminating evidence for his brother then why not also give him a definitive alibi and say he was definitely at home at the time in question?

How long would Shane Mitchell have been sent to prison for helping his brother?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4862 on: November 28, 2023, 03:58:34 PM »
If Shane was involved in any way in protecting his brother why not just lie? The fact that he didn’t, for me, lends credence to his statements rather then takes it away.

Shane Mitchell’s gaslighting and manipulation was extremely telling
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4863 on: November 28, 2023, 04:04:54 PM »
Totally. "It's not my place to think, sir." Wow! Absolutely absurd. What kind of reply is that?!!!

a narcissistical one
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4864 on: November 28, 2023, 04:15:12 PM »
4:01pm Luke Mitchell made a telephone call from the landline
4:04pm Shane Mitchell telephoned his home landline & spoke to his brother Luke Mitchell
4:28pm (Approx) Luke Mitchell left to meet Jodi Jones
4:45pm (Approx) Shane Mitchell apparently arrived home at this time
4:53pm Shane Mitchell logged into the Internet
5:16pm Shane Mitchell logged out of the Internet
5:16pm Corinne Mitchell apparently arrived home from Morning noon & night
6:04pm Shane Mitchell made a telephone call to someone using his mobile. Shane Mitchell claimed he ate just before he went out at around 6:21pm
6:20pm Shane Mitchell used his mobile phone to call Gary Coyle’s phone number
6:21pm (Approx) Shane Mitchell claimed he left home to drive to Gary Coyle’s house
6:30pm Neighbours of the Mitchell’s detect smoke coming from their garden 
9:57pm Shane Mitchell arrived home from Gary Coyle’s house & made a telephone call to a Bathgate number from the home landline
10:00pm Neighbours of the Mitchell’s detect smoke coming from their garden 
Corrine Mitchell ~ ‘She said neighbours who gave statements saying that the log burner in her garden had been used on the evening of the murder were mistaken. Mrs Mitchell said she might have burnt some grass at the time but did not use the burner
10:00pm (Just after) Killer Luke Mitchell was observed walking outside his house
10:41pm Killer Luke Mitchell claimed his first telephone call to Judith Jones “Did Not Connect” he also told the police it was his mother Corinne Mitchell’s “Suggestion” that he go and pretend to look for Jodi Jones
00:31am Killer Luke Mitchell telephoned his mother Corinne Mitchell to her “stop f..king phoning me” (Source Scott Forbes)
00:39am Killer Luke Mitchell telephoned his mother Corinne Mitchell
“He would not answer and then he finally phoned and said, 'I can't talk, I have to go.' He phoned back again and when I asked what happened he said, ‘I can't tell you’, I heard a man's voice in the background and Luke said it was a policeman and I asked to speak to him” ~ Corinne Mitchell’s testimony
01:00am (Times not accurate) Sometime after 1:00am Shane Mitchell received a phonecall from his mother Corinne Mitchell asking him to bring some clothes to the police station
Shane Mitchell claimed he was sleeping when his mother phoned him and got up and drove to Dreghorn to get gas, presumably before driving to Dalkeith police station

Corinne Mitchell claimed her son Shane Mitchell “came & went most of the evening” - Not according to Shane Mitchell’s testimony he didn’t

Corrine Mitchell
”When I got home I went directly to the kitchen where I was confronted by Luke brandishing the broccoli! He asked if it should be that colour (it was turning yellowy) and I said no......bin the broccoli! He decided on beans instead...as it was a Monday and I do my weekly shop on a Tuesday there wasn't any other fresh vegetables left.

Both Luke and I served up. I told Luke to shout Shane down as he was upstairs. Shane came down, complained to Luke he had burnt the pie, I told him it could be scraped off, it wasn't that bad. Shane returned upstairs armed with his dinner. Luke ate his in front of the TV and I decided to have mine on the patio as I had been cooped up in my office all day and not seen any sun.

After eating dinner I was preparing to do the dishes when Luke came into the kitchen and said that that was him off. I joked with him and said.....don't tell me ...your seeing Jodi....as by this time Jodi had become more favourable than the cadets. I also suggested to him that he introduced his clothes to the washing machine as he had worn them for a couple of days. I got the usual teenage response......Och mum!.....and "this is Jodi’s favourite t-shirt" I replied it wouldn't be much longer if it didn't get washed and with that I got another "Och".....I'm off, see you later!

Shane came and went most of the evening, which I found quite irritating! I had stopped smoking, due to pressure from Shane, and had discovered that tracking and smoking don't go as it involves a lot of running, but by this time I was having the odd sneaky one due to pressure at work. This is our busiest time. Every time I went to "light up" Shane appeared and nearly caught me. Then just as I was safe in the knowledge that Shane was engrossed in his computer......Lit up fag.......Luke comes in.......I never got a sneaky cig that night. The rest is on the time~line. Hope this helps
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http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg22813.html#msg22813

According to Shane Mitchell’s testimony - he spoke to his killer brother Luke Mitchell at 4:04pm on 30th June 2003 and didn’t see or hear anything about his brother Luke again until his mother Corinne Mitchell telephoned him from the police station
« Last Edit: November 28, 2023, 06:36:46 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4865 on: November 28, 2023, 04:34:22 PM »
Who or what is the source of SM being spotted in Oxgangs on the night of the murder? I have only ever read about it on here. Nowhere else. I don't doubt he was seen in the aforementioned area, but I would just like to be directed to the source of this info. Anyone?

Eyewitness or witnesses - the police would have no doubt spoken to the gas station and obtained CCTV where they could for Shane Mitchell’s movements 
« Last Edit: November 28, 2023, 05:06:24 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4866 on: November 28, 2023, 05:05:41 PM »
If Shane was involved in any way in protecting his brother why not just lie? The fact that he didn’t, for me, lends credence to his statements rather then takes it away.

Shane Mitchell did lie - numerous times!

He was arrested and charged for attempting to pervert the course of justice because of his numerous bare faced lies and concoctions

Do you think Shane told the police he went to get gas at silly O’clock in the morning on 1st July 2003 before he was arrested on 14th April 2004?
« Last Edit: November 28, 2023, 06:37:20 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4867 on: November 28, 2023, 05:12:07 PM »
4:04pm Shane Mitchell telephoned his home landline & spoke to his brother Luke Mitchell
4:28pm (Approx) Luke Mitchell left to meet Jodi Jones
4:45pm-4:50pm (Approx) Shane Mitchell apparently arrived home at this time
4:53pm Shane Mitchell logged into the Internet
5:16om Shane Mitchell logged out of the Internet
6:04pm Shane Mitchell made a telephone call to someone using his mobile
Shane Mitchell claimed he ate just before he went out at around 6:21pm
6:20pm Shane Mitchell used his mobile phone to call Gary Coyle’s phone number
6:21pm (Approx) Shane Mitchell left home to drive to Gary Coyle’s house
9:57pm Shane Mitchell arrived home from Gary Coyle’s house & made a telephone call to a Bathgate number from the home landline

“Just after” Shane Mitchell claimed he left his home to go to Gary C’s house neighbours of the Mitchell’s detect smoke coming from their garden

“Just after” Shane Mitchell arrived home from Gary C’s house the neighbours again detect smoke coming from the Mitchell’s back garden

One neighbour said they heard voices in the garden


Alan Turnbull: In June of last year in your back garden there was a log burner, wasn’t there?

Shane Mitchell: Yes

Alan Turnbull: And that could be used to burn rubbish or other items

Shane Mitchell: Yes if it would fit inside it

Alan Turnbull: Sorry?

Shane Mitchell: If it would fit inside

Alan Turnbull: If it would fit inside, of course. Did you sometimes use that log burner?

Shane Mitchell: Once or twice

Alan Turnbull: Did you use it on the evening of 30th June 2003

Shane Mitchell: No
« Last Edit: November 28, 2023, 08:14:31 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4868 on: November 28, 2023, 06:13:54 PM »
Shane Mitchell: After giving my first statement, coming home and thinking about it, I realised that it was wrong. I realised that nearly everything about it was wrong because my head was so screwed up because what had been going on

Shane Mitchell gave his first police statement on the 3rd July 2003

Why did he choose to tell so many bare faced lies and concoctions?

And what did he mean exactly about “what had been going on”?

Shane Mitchell didn’t know Jodi Jones, from his accounts Shane barely appeared to have ever seen Jodi

So what exactly was he referring to?

The family liaison officer didn’t contact the Mitchell until the evening of the 2nd July 2003

Shane Mitchell claimed the 30th June 2003 had been a “mundane” day

So what exactly had been going on in the Mitchell house?

Killer Luke Mitchell was due to go and visit Kimberley Thomson on the 5th July

Shane Mitchell would have met Kimberley T when she stayed over at the Mitchell’s house just after Christmas Day 2002

Did Shane Mitchell go to work on the 1st and 2nd July 2003?

Shane Mitchell: I couldn’t.. I generally couldn’t remember a single thing about that day, my memories went completely.. they were all over the place 

Why?

Jodi Jones wasn’t his sister, family member or loved one!

Why did Shane Mitchell claim to react like this?

Shane Mitchell referring to his 3rd July 2003 police witness statement

Shane Mitchell: But when I signed that statement I’d been questioned for over 5 hours. I was tired, confused, hungry. I wanted to go home. I wanted to get out of there. I didn’t have the energy left to do anything further about it
« Last Edit: November 28, 2023, 06:28:11 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4869 on: November 28, 2023, 06:23:10 PM »
Shane Mitchell: After giving my first statement, coming home and thinking about it, I realised that it was wrong. I realised that nearly everything about it was wrong because my head was so screwed up because what had been going on

Shane Mitchell gave his first police statement on the 3rd July 2003

Why did he choose to tell so many bare faced lies and concoctions?

And what did he mean exactly about “what had been going on”?

Shane Mitchell didn’t know Jodi Jones, from his accounts Shane barely appeared to have ever seen Jodi

So what exactly was he referring to?

The family liaison officer didn’t contact the Mitchell until the evening of the 2nd July 2003

Shane Mitchell claimed the 30th June 2003 had been a “mundane” day

So what exactly had been going on in the Mitchell house?

Killer Luke Mitchell was due to go and visit Kimberley Thomson on the 5th July

Shane Mitchell would have met Kimberley T when she stayed over at the Mitchell’s house just after Christmas Day 2002

Did Shane Mitchell go to work on the 1st and 2nd July 2003?
well his brother’s girlfriend had just been murdered and so that’s probably what he meant by all that had been going on.  You’d imagine it was probably a topic of conersation in the Mitchell household during that period, no?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4870 on: November 28, 2023, 06:29:51 PM »
Shane Mitchell: But when I signed that statement I’d been questioned for over 5 hours. I was tired, confused, hungry. I wanted to go home. I wanted to get out of there. I didn’t have the energy left to do anything further about it

What a narcissist Shane Mitchell sounds like!

Jodi Jones - a 14 year old girl is murdered and all Shane Mitchell could think about was himself, food and sleep 

 *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4871 on: November 28, 2023, 06:38:46 PM »
well his brother’s girlfriend had just been murdered and so that’s probably what he meant by all that had been going on.  You’d imagine it was probably a topic of conersation in the Mitchell household during that period, no?

Who did Shane Mitchell tell the police he thought was his brother’s girlfiriend?

Kimberley Thomson or Jodi Jones?

Without a doubt “it was probably a topic of conversation in the Mitchell household”

They were clearly all conspiring with one another

 *&^^&
« Last Edit: November 28, 2023, 06:43:34 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4872 on: November 28, 2023, 06:42:03 PM »
Who did Shane Mitchell tell the police he thought was his brother’s girlfiriend?

Kimberley Thomson or Jodi Jones?

Without a doubt “it was probably a topic of conversation in the Mitchell household” - they were clearly all conspiring with one another

 *&^^&
I don’t know and yes, probably.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4873 on: November 28, 2023, 06:44:55 PM »
Who did Shane Mitchell tell the police he thought was his brother’s girlfiriend?
I don’t know

Maybe the trial testimony of some of the police officers who interviewed Shane Mitchell on the 14th April 2004 will help answer this?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4874 on: November 28, 2023, 06:59:45 PM »
Who did Shane Mitchell tell the police he thought was his brother’s girlfiriend?

Kimberley Thomson or Jodi Jones?

Without a doubt “it was probably a topic of conversation in the Mitchell household”

They were clearly all conspiring with one another

 *&^^&

If they were all conspiring together then why did Shane not say from the very beginning that he had seen Luke? Job done.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?