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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4935 on: December 01, 2023, 01:17:24 PM »
2nd July 2003 - Killer Luke Mitchell sketched a map of his crime scene for Dc Michelle Lindsay
2nd July 2003 - Killer Luke Mitchell went to Sainsburys and bought a Marilyn Manson CD & DVD
3rd July 2003 - Liar Shane Mitchell gave his first witness statement
4th July 2003 - Police searched Newbattle abbey crescent
5th July 2003 - Killer Luke Mitchell was due to go & stay with Kimberley Thomson
6th July 2003 - Corinne Mitchell made a police witness statement
7th July 2003 - Shane Mitchell made another witness statement
8th July 2003 - Rosemary Walsh gave her first police statement
8th July 2004 - Killer Luke Mitchell already thinking about going back to school & wanting a new thick, heavy German army parka style jacket - in the summer

“By the 3rd July Luke had started to emerge from the pack with a greater degree of suspicion than the rest, all he did was make me more suspicious ~ SIO Craig Dobbie

Is there any wonder why
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4936 on: December 01, 2023, 01:19:58 PM »
2nd July 2003 - Killer Luke Mitchell sketched a map of his crime scene for Dc Michelle Lindsay
2nd July 2003 - Killer Luke Mitchell went to Sainsburys and bought a Marilyn Manson CD & DVD
3rd July 2003 - Liar Shane Mitchell gave his first witness statement
4th July 2003 - Police searched Newbattle abbey crescent
5th July 2003 - Killer Luke Mitchell was due to go & stay with Kimberley Thomson
6th July 2003 - Corinne Mitchell made a police witness statement
7th July 2003 - Shane Mitchell made another witness statement
8th July 2003 - Rosemary Walsh gave her first police statement
8th July 2004 - Killer Luke Mitchell already thinking about going back to school & wanting a new thick, heavy German army parka style jacket - in the summer

“By the 3rd July Luke had started to emerge from the pack with a greater degree of suspicion than the rest, all he did was make me more suspicious ~ SIO Craig Dobbie

According to attention seeker, fantasist and fraudster Scott Forbes the 3rd of July 2003 was when he drove his innocent “friend” Mark Kane to a police station 🙄
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4937 on: December 01, 2023, 01:27:04 PM »
Further still, I think, in addition to having the entire trial to watch on a tv and the full trial transcripts, to really form the most fair and accurate opinion on this case one possibly could, it would also be necessary to have every single detail that went into it. Every single statement, interview transcript ... every single little thing in conjunction with the investigation & case. A considerable undertaking, I know. And the reason I say this, is because on p.2107 of SM's trial transcript (from part 2), DF revealed during SM's police interview on 14.04.04 he said, “He couldnae have been in the house if people had seen him." Now, even without context, this is very damning indeed. Why on earth would he say that??

Do you also think Donald Findlay “revealed” a future possible ground for appeal when he was referring to Shane Mitchell’s police interview?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4938 on: December 01, 2023, 01:58:57 PM »
Further still, I think, in addition to having the entire trial to watch on a tv and the full trial transcripts, to really form the most fair and accurate opinion on this case one possibly could, it would also be necessary to have every single detail that went into it. Every single statement, interview transcript ... every single little thing in conjunction with the investigation & case. A considerable undertaking, I know. And the reason I say this, is because on p.2107 of SM's trial transcript (from part 2), DF revealed during SM's police interview on 14.04.04 he said, “He couldnae have been in the house if people had seen him.” Now, even without context, this is very damning indeed. Why on earth would he say that??

Do you also think Donald Findlay “revealed” a future possible ground for appeal when he was referring to Shane Mitchell’s police interview?

And do you think Alan Turnbull kicked butt and ensured this future possibility was shut down ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4939 on: December 01, 2023, 02:05:53 PM »

Matthew Elliott
@mattelliottphot
Doesn’t matter who’s doing the transcripts…matter of public record and can’t be ‘changed’
9:36 PM · Nov 29, 2023

Will Matt Elliott’s new film include the callousness, contempt and disrespect shown towards Jodi Jones’ family over the years by people like dangerous, toxic and abusive innocence fraud killer enabler Sandra Lean?


Matt Elliott
*FILM*
It’s fair to say I’ve been involved with true crime for a long time now, but have always had an issue with it being disrespectful and purely for entertainment. If you watch ‘some’ documentaries and listen to some podcasts then you’ll probably understand what I’m talking about.
What’s been skimmed over, in Luke’s case, is portraying him as just a 2 dimensional ‘emotionless’ character who listened to ‘death’ metal and had interests in the ‘darker’ side of life. What’s often gets forgotten, and sometimes conveniently, is the fact he was a child himself and had found his girlfriend brutally mudered.
Within the film I’m looking to give a true and honest account of Luke,before his life was turned upside down, as a typical teenage boy in 2003.
What was life like for Luke then?
How did he spend his free time?
Who did he hang around with?
What was school life like?
Etc
If you knew Luke then, or know someone who would be happy to chat with me, I’d be grateful for the pointers.
I’m fully respectful to the sensitive nature of the case and everything will be held in confidence.
Every story has a backstory…
Ty
Matt


And will Matt Elliott be speaking to the people who knew the killer best ie; Shane Mitchell, Philip Mitchell and his step-mother ?

I didn’t believe you then and still don’t believe you Matthew Elliott!

The disrespect showed towards Jodi Jones in Bob Ruff’s podcast is deplorable Matthew Elliott!

Again - have you emailed Bob Ruff and if not why not?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4940 on: December 01, 2023, 02:37:56 PM »
Anonymous member
Are we allowed to ask what happened to the parties involved in this case? Do both families  still live in the area ? Does Luke still speak and see his family ?

Rachel Roll
Yes Jodi's family and Dr Sandra Lean still live in the area. Luke's family have moved out of the area. He still sees his family and has friends who have supported him throughout too



Why aren’t charlatan Sandra Lean’s own family having a party for her?

Don’t they also live in the area?

This “he still sees his family” is yet another bare faced lie!

Philip Mitchell, his wife and their daughter do not see killer Luke Mitchell nor does his brother Shane Mitchell! - Ask Sharon Indy Sunshine

Who else other than Sandra Lean and Gemma Chapman, Aka Freddie Gren, knew killer Luke Mitchell back then and are still in contact with him?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4941 on: December 01, 2023, 04:29:32 PM »
Sandra Lean
I love it when a new question pops up and sets off a whole new train of thought. Tonight's question was, have those making threats been reported? My immediate answer was "they're anonymous" and that then reminded me of something. When my vehicle details were made public, with encouragements to "keep an eye out for it," I contacted the police, having screen shotted everything. Their response? Nothing they could do - it would be "impossible" to trace these anonymous people.

Now, wait a minute!!! Doesn't every police investigation, into every crime, start with having to find and identify an "anonymous" person - like, say, a killer? Violent attacker? Stalker or kidnapper? It's not as if these people walk around with a sign on their foreheads - they are, by definition, anonymous (to police investigations) pretty much from the off. Yet, in this incredible age of technology, people leaving a digital footprint and fingerprint everywhere they go are, according to Police Scotland, "impossible to trace." Make of that .....



What would police find if they were to seize Freddie Gren aka Gemma Chapman and Nicky Brendan Aka Nicola Brennan’s devices Sandra Lean?
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Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4942 on: December 01, 2023, 04:35:49 PM »
Sandra Lean
I love it when a new question pops up and sets off a whole new train of thought. Tonight's question was, have those making threats been reported? My immediate answer was "they're anonymous" and that then reminded me of something. When my vehicle details were made public, with encouragements to "keep an eye out for it," I contacted the police, having screen shotted everything. Their response? Nothing they could do - it would be "impossible" to trace these anonymous people.

Exaggerated victimhood is a common feature of narcissistic grandiosity. Narcissistic personalities often feel victimized because of their unrealistic expectations, hypersensitivity, and lack of empathy. Narcissists also play the victim to elicit sympathy and avoid responsibility for their abusive behaviour.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4943 on: December 01, 2023, 04:36:30 PM »
Christopher John Halkides
The cyclist first thought he heard a sound like branches moving.  His impression of what he heard changed over time.


Leonard Kelly was clear

His “impression” was that the noises he heard were “two laddies fighting”

But by the following morning, he realised when he heard a young girl had been found murdered - that he had witnessed hearing killer Luke Mitchell’s murder - behind the wall

** In Memory Of Leonard Kelly **(Part 179)

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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/19/in-memory-of-leonard-kelly-part-179/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4944 on: December 01, 2023, 04:40:27 PM »
Sandra Lean
I love it when a new question pops up and sets off a whole new train of thought. Tonight's question was, have those making threats been reported? My immediate answer was "they're anonymous" and that then reminded me of something. When my vehicle details were made public, with encouragements to "keep an eye out for it," I contacted the police, having screen shotted everything. Their response? Nothing they could do - it would be "impossible" to trace these anonymous people.

Exaggerated victimhood is a common feature of narcissistic grandiosity. Narcissistic personalities often feel victimized because of their unrealistic expectations, hypersensitivity, and lack of empathy. Narcissists also play the victim to elicit sympathy and avoid responsibility for their abusive behaviour.


Killer Luke Mitchell: Pretend Criminologist & Malignant Narcissist & Cult-Like Group Leader Sandra Lean & The Harm Her Brainwashing Is Doing (Part 102)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/10/30/__trashed-6/

Killer Luke Mitchell Had All Of This Time Over This Evening To Dispose, Clean & So Forth & Proxy Abuser, & Pretend Criminologist Sandra Lean’s Web Of Deceit To Reach Maslow’s Pyramid (Part 108)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/10/31/killer-luke-mitchell-proxy-abuser-pretend-criminologist-sandra-leans-web-of-deceit-to-reach-maslows-pyramid-guest-blog-part-108/

Killer Luke Mitchell & Malignant Narcissist Sandra Lean’s Killer Cult (Part 118)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/08/killer-luke-mitchell-malignant-narcissist-sandra-leans-killer-cult-part-118/

Killer Luke Mitchell: Con-Artist Sandra Lean Is The Joseph Goebbels Of Midlothian’s ‘Wrongful Conviction’ Movement (Part 135)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/27/killer-luke-mitchell-sandra-lean-is-the-joseph-goebbels-of-midlothians-wrongful-conviction-movement-part-135/

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Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4945 on: December 01, 2023, 06:45:41 PM »
Exaggerated victimhood is a common feature of narcissistic grandiosity. Narcissistic personalities often feel victimized because of their unrealistic expectations, hypersensitivity, and lack of empathy. Narcissists also play the victim to elicit sympathy and avoid responsibility for their abusive behaviour.

Without a doubt she takes no responsibility for the deadly serious implications herself and her lunatic followers who have hounded dozens of innocent people by posting false IDs and images online that could ruin people's lives. The Dobbie one recently wasn't even him.

Has Lean mentioned who threatened who to cause her party to be cancelled (again). Or was it another publicity like her van holiday/fleeing from justice?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4946 on: December 01, 2023, 06:47:49 PM »
Without a doubt she takes no responsibility for the deadly serious implications herself and her lunatic followers who have hounded dozens of innocent people by posting false IDs and images online that could ruin people's lives. The Dobbie one recently wasn't even him.

Neither was the AO one

There have been others too
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4947 on: December 01, 2023, 06:52:09 PM »
Has Lean mentioned who threatened who to cause her party to be cancelled (again). Or was it another publicity like her van holiday/fleeing from justice?

Knowing Sandra Lean she’ll be throwing all kinds of names out - behind the scenes of course

Someone has said vulnerable victim Gemma Chapman could be bi-polar - an easy target for someone like Sandra Lean and sadistic psychopath and murderer Luke Mitchell
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Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4948 on: December 01, 2023, 07:06:29 PM »
Has Lean mentioned who threatened who to cause her party to be cancelled (again). Or was it another publicity like her van holiday/fleeing from justice?

As you and many others know, she has a long history of playing the victim.

My advice to those that are drawn in by these pity ploys. Step back and observe. Don't get pulled into the rabbit hole.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4949 on: December 01, 2023, 07:11:24 PM »
As you and many others know, she has a long history of playing the victim.

My advice to those that are drawn in by these pity ploys. Step back and observe. Don't get pulled into the rabbit hole.

Good advice Rusty!

Colin Todd appears to be recognising the fact the gravy train has come off the rails

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation