Why did suspicion fall upon Luke Mitchell?

[Nicholas]

I don't think Shane has said much about anything apart from sticking to the truth in the witness box and not the original narrative he and his mother had discussed.

His silence speaks volumes.

Did Shane Mitchell turn to drugs following the murder?


Jan 2005
“Shane Mitchell had earlier told the court that he had discussed with his mother what he should tell the police in the days after Jodi's death.
He said he was extremely shaken up and could not remember a single thing about the day Jodi was killed.
Mr Mitchell said his memory had been affected after a problem with drugs a few years ago.


Was ‘a few years ago’ in reference to around the time of the murder?

[faithlilly]

Therefore until a cite is produced there is no independent provenance for this allegation meaning in effect this incident just did not happen as it has been portrayed.

In fact that’s not true. The provenance is the court transcripts. Whether you believe them or not is entirely up to you.

[faithlilly]

Which is why I'm discounting it.

Which is your right. I however call it cherrypicking the facts that suit your narrative.

[Nicholas]

Luke couldn't provide an explanation for calling the speaking clock from his mobile at a time when he told the police he was at home cooking the dinner.  So no fabrication there just no reason given.

Did Corrine Mitchell fabricate the story of Luke taking Mia out for her ‘last pee for the evening’?


What does Sandra Lean say in her book about this?

[faithlilly]

1 - that's a question for the police - is it not the case that SM was later sectioned at his own request?

2 - You have no way of knowing why it was carried out that way.

3 - thank you - I have no reason do disbelieve that it went down that way - we disagree as to it's importance, though,

1. Do you have a cite? You know Brietta insists on a cite.

2. There is nothing to suggest that SM was any danger and was, from all we know, cooperating fully with the police.

3. Are you suggesting that being arrested in the way SM was couldn’t possibly have had an effect on his psyche when later questioned?

[faithlilly]

Did Corrine Mitchell fabricate the story of Luke taking Mia out for her ‘last pee for the evening’?


What does Sandra Lean say in her book about this?

Can I suggest you buy it? £20 from all good retailers.

[Nicholas]

Can I suggest you buy it? £20 from all good retailers.

Do you know the answer or not?

Did Corrine Mitchell fabricate the story of Luke taking Mia out for her ‘last pee for the evening’?

And has Corrine introduced this story since her interview with James English in 2019?

There is no mention of this in Sandra Lean’s book ‘No Smoke’

[Paranoid Android]

1. Do you have a cite? You know Brietta insists on a cite.

2. There is nothing to suggest that SM was any danger and was, from all we know, cooperating fully with the police.

3. Are you suggesting that being arrested in the way SM was couldn’t possibly have had an effect on his psyche when later questioned?

1 - I don't have a cite - I'm asking in case anyone wants to confirm or deny it - do you have a cite for this?

2 & 3 - There is, of course, a possibility that the alleged way SM was arrested had an effect - the fact is that the police felt that they needed to question him urgently, and pulled him in.

I think the suggestion might be that, if SM did have a history of sectioning himself, the cops maybe wanted to nab him quick.

[Paranoid Android]

Can I suggest you buy it? £20 from all good retailers.

If you're going to insist on punting your mum's book, there's a thread dedicate to it - you could use that.

[Nicholas]

I think the suggestion might be that, if SM did have a history of sectioning himself, the cops maybe wanted to nab him quick.

‘Sectioning himself’ ?

[faithlilly]

Do you know the answer or not?

Did Corrine Mitchell fabricate the story of Luke taking Mia out for her ‘last pee for the evening’?

And has Corrine introduced this story since her interview with James English in 2019?

There is no mention of this in Sandra Lean’s book ‘No Smoke’

Yes I do thank you. I read it in SL’s book.

[Nicholas]

Yes I do thank you. I read it in SL’s book.

What page in Sandra Lean’s book does she describe Luke Mitchell taking Mia out for a walk to ‘save his mums legs’ around the time he received JuJ’s text message at 10.38?

[Rusty]

If you're going to insist on punting your mum's book, there's a thread dedicate to it - you could use that.

Exactly what I think. Been trolling for years.

[faithlilly]

1 - I don't have a cite - I'm asking in case anyone wants to confirm or deny it - do you have a cite for this?

2 & 3 - There is, of course, a possibility that the alleged way SM was arrested had an effect - the fact is that the police felt that they needed to question him urgently, and pulled him in.

I think the suggestion might be that, if SM did have a history of sectioning himself, the cops maybe wanted to nab him quick.

1. I don’t have a cite and tbh it’s the first time I’ve heard the claim. Can I ask where you heard it? Was it locally?

2&3 The questions asked of SM suggest that they did not see him as an imminent threat and that fact that he was questioned, or should have been, with regard to perverting the course of justice and not murder further suggests this.

I would agree with your last sentence, if his mental health history had suggested a violent element. Did it?

That DF seems to have set great store on the aggressive way SM was arrested tends to suggest that there was no justification for it.

[Nicholas]

What reason did Luke Mitchell have for turning up to school in September 2003 ‘smoking, wearing a bandana and not wearing school uniform’?

And what did Sandra Lean says about this in her book?


According to a news report from around the time one parent said,
‘I was upset that he had shown up like that so I complained to the deputy head. She told me several ptger parents had already got in there before me’