Why did suspicion fall upon Luke Mitchell?

[faithlilly]

Attendees including Corinne Mitchell and Sandra Lean so pretty non partisan.

I asswered you other off topic question in my last post ie publicly in both the High Court and the Supreme Court.

Could I have cites your first sentence please and apologies I missed your second response. Didn’t you say though that the media twisted what your brother said so with the greatest respect how can we know what he said? Has he in the media or on a forum supported you publicly? Apologies again as I know little about your case but does your conviction still stand?

[faithlilly]

Let's be honest, this was an attempt to exonerate Luke Mitchell and to blame AN Others, it had Sandra Lean's paw marks all over it.  It wasn't an impartial production by any stretch of the imagination so attracted rightful criticism from the police and many other quarters.

It was a WHO DUN IT from start to finish.

Do you think Sandra’s that powerful?

[Brietta]

I totally agree on that one Brietta but it is often the case that shouting the loudest gets one heard and that appears to be the agenda with Sandra given the SCCRC rejection of her Application.

If you look at the Petition you will see that it was boosted by the Ch5 documentary but hasn't moved since. Power of the national media?

I noted that her book purchases from Amazon benefitted from the documentary too, although recent purchasers hadn't bothered to read it only leaving a record of their names but no reviews. Maybe they'll have got round to reading it by now.  I found that quite odd to leave a note of intention to read a book you've purchased where a review would normally be.

[Paranoid Android]

It was indeed a brutal murder, an almost decapitation, a feature of the murder which until very recently has been kept secret from the public for 17 years. Why now is this fact being bandied about do you think?

Who can say, eh?

I actually heard about that aspect of the murder anecdotally at the time of the trial or one of the appeals - can't remember from where, tbh - just on the local grapevine of interested observers.

[Paranoid Android]

I imagine this would have caused quite a stushie at the time ~ where was it reported?

Which bit?

I'm not sure that everything was reported at the time, but people talk and word spread locally.

[Brietta]

Which bit?

I'm not sure that everything was reported at the time, but people talk and word spread locally.

In other words ~ there is no provenance for the tale you and others have posted.

[John]

Do you think Sandra’s that powerful?

More influential than powerful.

[faithlilly]

More influential than powerful.

Influential enough to influence a television company?

Care to answer my previous questions?

[Paranoid Android]

In other words ~ there is no provenance for the tale you and others have posted.

What are you on about?

[Brietta]

More influential than powerful.

We live in the internet age where for every event there is an associated conspiracy theory.  I think Sandra Lean is an "influencer" using the opportunity allowed by the internet to publicise her views to a wide audience.  I think her views on Jodi's murder are flawed because it is impossible for her to have access to all the necessary information the police used to build their case.

She cannot have knowledge of what evidence corroborates what.

Was the information she imparted in the Channel 5 Documentary accurate?  It went through unchallenged and a lot of opinions have been formed as a result.

[Brietta]

What are you on about?

Please mind your manners.

You posted ... "This thing about the police ...  ...  ... surrounding SM's car with many cars and officers:"

Do you have an independent cite supporting the narrative regarding Shane Mitchell?

[Paranoid Android]

Please mind your manners.

You posted ... "This thing about the police ...  ...  ... surrounding SM's car with many cars and officers:"

Do you have an independent cite supporting the narrative regarding Shane Mitchell?

I think folk are getting a wee bit carried away demanding 'cites' for every post - this isn't a court of law, it's a forum for discussion.

I also don't think anyone is going to blow this case wide open by spotting something in transcripts that have already been been pored over a thousand times.

If you're looking for a 'cite' for any claims that SM's car was surrounded by half a dozen cop cars, you'll find it in this very forum.

If you're saying that that incident never happened, read my post where I say that it's not important whether it happened or not - it's incidental - the important thing is that SM - a key witness, was apprehended.

I genuinely don't know where you're going with this.

[Brietta]

I think folk are getting a wee bit carried away demanding 'cites' for every post - this isn't a court of law, it's a forum for discussion.

I also don't think anyone is going to blow this case wide open by spotting something in transcripts that have already been been pored over a thousand times.

If you're looking for a 'cite' for any claims that SM's car was surrounded by half a dozen cop cars, you'll find it in this very forum.

If you're saying that that incident never happened, read my post where I say that it's not important whether it happened or not - it's incidental - the important thing is that SM - a key witness, was apprehended.

I genuinely don't know where you're going with this.

I want to know where the story about the police 'raid' on Shane Mitchell originated. 

You may not appreciate the requirement for the accuracy of the information contained in posts on this forum but it is a requirement ... and in my opinion this is a story which requires a cite as I think does your statement above that "the important thing is that SM - a key witness, was apprehended."

Was he?

Where did you get that information from?

Where I am going with this is that I want you to share the source of your information with me and the forum.  Shouldn't be too difficult.  If you are stating it you must know where it originates from.

[faithlilly]

I think folk are getting a wee bit carried away demanding 'cites' for every post - this isn't a court of law, it's a forum for discussion.

I also don't think anyone is going to blow this case wide open by spotting something in transcripts that have already been been pored over a thousand times.

If you're looking for a 'cite' for any claims that SM's car was surrounded by half a dozen cop cars, you'll find it in this very forum.

If you're saying that that incident never happened, read my post where I say that it's not important whether it happened or not - it's incidental - the important thing is that SM - a key witness, was apprehended.

I genuinely don't know where you're going with this.

While I agree with much of your post I think how SM was apprehended is not incidental to what later transpired in the interview room but absolutely crucial, not only to that interview but his evidence in court.

He was 21, had never been in trouble with the police AFAIAA and while going about his daily business was stopped and, mob handed, the police apprehended him as if he was a major criminal, took him to a police station and aggressively interviewed him for 6 hours without legal representation. Further he was then charged with perverting the course of justice, a conviction which carries a jail sentence. Put yourself in his shoes. How would you have reacted?

[Vertigo Swirl]

While I agree with much of your post I think how SM was apprehended is not incidental to what later transpired in the interview room but absolutely crucial, not only to that interview but his evidence in court.

He was 21, had never been in trouble with the police AFAIAA and while going about his daily business was stopped and, mob handed, the police apprehended him as if he was a major criminal, took him to a police station and aggressively interviewed him for 6 hours without legal representation. Further he was then charged with perverting the course of justice, a conviction which carries a jail sentence. Put yourself in his shoes. How would you have reacted?

I would have made sure I told the truth in such a situation.  Did he, if so what did he say after being subject to such intense questioning?